If you would watch How I Met Your Mother, you would know that girls with daddy issues are usually the biggest sluts...

thedynasty1998;394215 wrote:If you would watch How I Met Your Mother, you would know that girls with daddy issues are usually the biggest sluts...

I don't need to watch a movie to know that.... I went to college


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majorspark;394152 wrote:I did't say I didn't want opinions. I said I would not seriously consider anyones advice in an internet forum. But I will say this there have been some really good points made.

I guess I was wanting to see what some of the youger guys thought of it.

I'm not trying to be a dick at all...so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm 25 (turning 26 in a little over a month). If I was trying to get with a girl and she said that I had to ask her dad's permission before we could date, I would do it. I would say all the right things to you so you think I'm the nicest most genuine guy ever. In my head though, I would be thinking..."I'm in. I'm going to get the stamp of approval and since she's probably crazy enough to think that what her dad says matters, I'm probably going to be able to get her to do whatever I want in the sack."

You say you know what young guys are thinking better than your daughter does. So do you honestly think that any guy just trying to get in your daughters' pants isn't going to be able to put on a good show for you just to get your seal of approval?

And, once again, I'm not being a dick...but I asked earlier in the thread what types of questions would you be asking a guy that is meeting you for the first time to ask your permission to date your daughter? I'm very interested to see what info you are trying to get from these guys to see if they are "worthy" of your daughter.

sherm03;394259 wrote:I'm not trying to be a dick at all...so please don't take this the wrong way. I'm 25 (turning 26 in a little over a month). If I was trying to get with a girl and she said that I had to ask her dad's permission before we could date, I would do it. I would say all the right things to you so you think I'm the nicest most genuine guy ever. In my head though, I would be thinking..."I'm in. I'm going to get the stamp of approval and since she's probably crazy enough to think that what her dad says matters, I'm probably going to be able to get her to do whatever I want in the sack."

You say you know what young guys are thinking better than your daughter does. So do you honestly think that any guy just trying to get in your daughters' pants isn't going to be able to put on a good show for you just to get your seal of approval?

You are right. You sound a lot like myself when I was a young man. Thats how I have a better pespective on a young mans mind than she has. This whole thing really has nothing to do with sex. I had that conversation with her. I shared my opinions and gave her my advice as to the possible consquences and that I felt it best for her to wait until she gets married. I had that conversation once and will not have it again. Unless she specifically asks for my advise. That is her choice to make. There is nothing I could do about it even if I wanted to.

sherm03;394259 wrote:And, once again, I'm not being a dick...but I asked earlier in the thread what types of questions would you be asking a guy that is meeting you for the first time to ask your permission to date your daughter? I'm very interested to see what info you are trying to get from these guys to see if they are "worthy" of your daughter.

Dude I don't think your a dick. Its just your opinion. As I said to Keebler. I see it more as a way of honoring the family structure. But that is just my opinion. And of course at some point age would matter.

You asked so here it is. It would likely not be much in the form of questions a just a couple of simple statements. If he is one of these young 16yr old new drivers I would probably stress that he needs to be careful with his driving and it is his responsibility to not do anything that would jepordize her safety. In fact she was in a car with a young man after school and he got stopped going 80 some MPH on a county road. The kid called and apologized to my wife and I because he placed my daughter in danger. Very respectful of him. Other than I would thank him for his respect and maybe just some other questions would just be general.

Now if the young man were a little older I would thank him for his respect. I would likely stress to him that since my daughter was a young girl it has been my primary responsibilty to watch out for her emotionally and physically. I would say that the time has come that those responsibilities will be in someone elses hands. I would say honor her and treat her with respect and never lay a hand on her in anger.

Sherm3...as I stated earlier...it's not about asking him questions or making him put on a "good show". In fact it has nothing to do with him...at least for me. Meeting a new significant other is more about showing my daughter through action that she's important to me and who she chooses matters to me because I love her. I can't do that enough for my daughter.

I promise you it isn't about the guy at all. I would never disapprove of who my daughter chooses to date unless it was obvious she was truly in harms way. I will always do my best to meet and get to know them...so she sees that what's important to her is important to me...because it is.

I'd bet $50 that his daughter is getting railed right about meow...

Any takers?

LJ;394216 wrote:I don't need to watch a movie to know that.... I went to college


lol

Truth.

majorspark;394298 wrote:You are right. You sound a lot like myself when I was a young man. Thats how I have a better pespective on a young mans mind than she has. This whole thing really has nothing to do with sex. I had that conversation with her. I shared my opinions and gave her my advice as to the possible consquences and that I felt it best for her to wait until she gets married. I had that conversation once and will not have it again. Unless she specifically asks for my advise. That is her choice to make. There is nothing I could do about it even if I wanted to.



Dude I don't think your a dick. Its just your opinion. As I said to Keebler. I see it more as a way of honoring the family structure. But that is just my opinion. And of course at some point age would matter.

You asked so here it is. It would likely not be much in the form of questions a just a couple of simple statements. If he is one of these young 16yr old new drivers I would probably stress that he needs to be careful with his driving and it is his responsibility to not do anything that would jepordize her safety. In fact she was in a car with a young man after school and he got stopped going 80 some MPH on a county road. The kid called and apologized to my wife and I because he placed my daughter in danger. Very respectful of him. Other than I would thank him for his respect and maybe just some other questions would just be general.

Now if the young man were a little older I would thank him for his respect. I would likely stress to him that since my daughter was a young girl it has been my primary responsibilty to watch out for her emotionally and physically. I would say that the time has come that those responsibilities will be in someone elses hands. I would say honor her and treat her with respect and never lay a hand on her in anger.

It sounds to me that you really don't need them to approach you and ask for your permission, just that you meet them and you have a conversation with them and let them know your concerns (if they are minors). That seems reasonable. If you just want to meet the guy and have a conversation with them, I think that is understandable IMO.

To request that they ask for your permission, that's a bit strange to me. Especially if they are adults.

majorspark;394298 wrote:You are right. You sound a lot like myself when I was a young man. Thats how I have a better pespective on a young mans mind than she has.

Most every guy can look back at his teen years and say "you sound a lot like myself when I was a young man". How do you have a better perspective on a young mans mind just because you were a horn dog when you were younger? Sure, you know the basics, but who doesn't? They teach the basics to kids in 3rd grade now...

Let me run this by you... If I met your daughter and wanted to do nothing but get it and give her the boot, you wouldn't even know I exist. She wouldn't tell you about me, she wouldn't even hint that there is something going on. I would use every one of your tactics against you just to get laid. Sorry to say I have done it in my younger years and more than once. Over protective Daddys are the easiest to fool. The only way to get around something like this is to loosen up the reigns a bit, give her space and be her friend rather than her ruler. A kid is much more likely to open up to an understanding parent.

If the "asking" rule is done away with, she is much more likely to bring home a guy to meet the family, and if that guy is in it for just a one night deal he isn't going to want to meet dad. If the asking rule stays, she is going to date without telling you and that gives a guy all the power he needs to get in daddy's little girl's pants and he will never know until she comes home with a sad face.

2 years from now, on a saturday night at 2am...

*ring* *ring* *ring*
Majorspark: hello???
Majorspark Daughter: Hi daddy!
MS: Oh hi hunny, everything ok?
MSD: yeah daddy, just have someone here who wants to talk to you
MS: Oh, ok
Drunken Frat Boy: Hell Majorspark
MS: Hello son
DFB: Well, your daughter said I had to talk to you first, but we met at a bar tonight and are totally hammered. She's been rubbing on me all night, but she told me that before we could go any further, I had to get your permission to proceed.


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sonofsam;394890 wrote:Most every guy can look back at his teen years and say "you sound a lot like myself when I was a young man". How do you have a better perspective on a young mans mind just because you were a horn dog when you were younger? Sure, you know the basics, but who doesn't? They teach the basics to kids in 3rd grade now....

It has to do with me being a male and her a female. Since I am a male and was once a young male it is my responsibility as a Father to use that knowledge, experience, and better perspective to educate her and give her a better grasp in interpreting a young man's motives and intentions. There is no deep psychology behind it.

sonofsam;394890 wrote:Let me run this by you... If I met your daughter and wanted to do nothing but get it and give her the boot, you wouldn't even know I exist. She wouldn't tell you about me, she wouldn't even hint that there is something going on. I would use every one of your tactics against you just to get laid. Sorry to say I have done it in my younger years and more than once. Over protective Daddys are the easiest to fool.

You cut off the part of my statement in your quote where I explained that. You don't have to fool me. You would have to fool her. I have had those conversations. Other than her seeking occasional advise I have said nothing more. That choice is in her hands.

sonofsam;394890 wrote:The only way to get around something like this is to loosen up the reigns a bit, give her space and be her friend rather than her ruler. A kid is much more likely to open up to an understanding parent.

I agree with this statement. Like I said in previous posts on the last couple of pages. My daughter enjoys very loose reigns. 95% of her friends that are her age are under much tighter reigns.

sonofsam;394890 wrote:If the "asking" rule is done away with, she is much more likely to bring home a guy to meet the family, and if that guy is in it for just a one night deal he isn't going to want to meet dad. If the asking rule stays, she is going to date without telling you and that gives a guy all the power he needs to get in daddy's little girl's pants and he will never know until she comes home with a sad face.

It was never an "asking" rule. Like I said before I suggested it once when she got her drivers license and was 16yrs old. She thought it was strange. In fact I think her initial words were, "Dad that's stupid." If I were an overbearing ruler I would have said, "I don't care what you think young lady I know what is best and as long as you live under my roof you will obey my rules." Instead I explained to her my reasoning. She understood, of course it is easier for her because she knows me personally. I told her to think about and that was it. I have not said a word since.

As I said before, she has been on many dates, proms, dances, movies, etc. Guys have come to the house to pick her up. I have said nothing more than hi. She has yet to get into a serious relationship. That is just what she has chosen for herself. She is having fun and enjoying the freedom she has without the responsibilities that will come with being an adult. She has told my wife and I about guys she has been interested in (mostly my wife because I bow out of the so and so is so cute thing.)

I was just thinking that she is going to be a senior next year and is approaching her 18th birthday. Obviously at some point age would matter. So I was on the chatter and thought I would see what some of the young guys thought about it. A lot of people tried to read way too much into it but that is understandable because they do not know me personally or my family personally so there was much left to interpret on their own. I think I cleared some of that up.

Other than a couple of dickheads most posters opinions made some good points. I would say that the thing that stood out the most to me in all the posters opinions is that people would falsely interpret my daughter and her family as weird when just the opposite is true. I don't care what people think about me personally but I do care what someone would think of my daughter.

That is completely understandable... It sounds like you run a tight ship and I can relate to that. Growing up when I was under 18, I had to be in bed by 9pm on week nights (summer too) and in the house by 9pm and in bed by 10pm on weekends. I had to call when I was going somewhere and with who, and give directions to where I was going to be with a phone number that I can be contacted at. Very few exceptions were made to these rules. Once I turned 18 the rules loosened a tad, but if i was still living under my parents roof, I was to follow their rules.

Needless to say, I found ways to break the rules without them knowing, I always had a number were I could be reached and I even paid my neighbor's sister to call me if my dad left the house so I could beat him to where I said I was going to be. After I turned 18, I went on a wild spree and did whatever I felt like doing which wasn't the smartest thing, but I needed to let loose.

Now I find myself at times running the ship the same way my dad did and its not the right way. I sometimes find myself in the wrong with the girlfriend over her daughter and I have to learn that what I learned wasn't the right way. I just hope that you can find a happy medium because my dad only had to worry about one dick in town, you and I have to worry about ALL the dicks in town.

This is ridiculous.

Permission? You're not serious...

At what point do you define casual as becoming serious? Around our area, most young kids date exclusively until they break up & then they go on to pursue another exclusive relationship. In other words, they don't have a date w/someone one night and a date w/a different person the next night like we did when I was younger. I would think that at the point of a casual relationship becoming more serious, you would already have met the guy & would already have an informed opinion of him one way or another if your relationship w/your daughter is that stable & there would really be no need for him to ask permission to become more serious with your daughter.

As an example, one of my daughters just graduated this year & she also turned 18 during her senior year. She had her 1st date w/her current boyfriend for her junior prom & she's been dating him ever since. We met him at the time of their first date & he's become another member of our family over this past year. I think within the 1st month they were "boyfriend/girlfriend" & she did let us know at that time. I guess in your eyes that would would have been the point where he should have come to us & ask permission to pursue a serious relationship with our daughter. Seems pretty pointless to me since we had already met him several times & knew they were dating exclusively, but good luck!

BTW - I & my siblings were born in the timeframe of 1949 through 1972 & I don't think any of us ever went to or had our significant others go to our parents to ask permission to become more serious.

majorspark;393023 wrote:1. Yes
2. No
3. No

Not all 17yr old girls are druken whores who use recreational drugs.

This made me laugh. I went to a Catholic high school and dated the "Bishop's Cross" winner, given annually to the senior with the best morals and whatnot. Well, she was a fucking nymphomaniac and drank whenever she could. Sooooooooo, I'd say you should realize unless you videotape your daughter 24/7 (which after reading this I'm not sure you wouldn't do...) you don't know the answers to those.

This thread made me hope all of my children are boys. With a boy you only have to worry about one dick, with a girl you have to worry about all of them.

sleeper;394489 wrote:I'd bet $50 that his daughter is getting railed right about meow...

Any takers?

I know this dudes daughter very well, she doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even think about sex before marriage.

How about I bet $50 sleeper is taking it in the ass right about meow....any takers???

I presume that statment is no more insulting than sleepers comment about Sparks daughter?????

Rednex;395849 wrote:I know this dudes daughter very well, she doesn't drink, smoke, do drugs, or even think about sex before marriage.

How about I bet $50 sleeper is taking it in the ass right about meow....any takers???

I presume that statment is no more insulting than sleepers comment about Sparks daughter?????

Sleeper isn't insulted by your comment. And if anyone is insulted that people on a message board think Sparks daughter has probably had a dick in and around her mouth, then they have an issue.

If the girl really IS a virgin and is saving it for marriage, than good for her. It doesn't happen that often anymore. It just so happens that it's just not the norm in todays world.

pnhasbeen;395858 wrote:Sleeper isn't insulted by your comment. And if anyone is insulted that people on a message board think Sparks daughter has probably had a dick in and around her mouth, then they have an issue.

If the girl really IS a virgin and is saving it for marriage, than good for her. It doesn't happen that often anymore. It just so happens that it's just not the norm in todays world.

Not everyone get's caught up in today's world.

It is our duty as parents to set our children up for not only today's world but tomorrow's world as well.

It's never to late to make a positive mark on a childs future.

Rednex;395861 wrote:Not everyone get's caught up in today's world.

It is our duty as parents to set our children up for not only today's world but tomorrow's world as well.

It's never to late to make a positive mark on a childs future.

Who the hell are you preaching to?

Rednex;395861 wrote:Not everyone get's caught up in today's world.

It is our duty as parents to set our children up for not only today's world but tomorrow's world as well.

It's never to late to make a positive mark on a childs future.

turd alert lol

pnhasbeen;395862 wrote:Who the hell are you preaching to?

Preaching???

Just answering your question.

Rednex;395867 wrote:Preaching???

Just answering your question.

He didn't ask one in the post you were preaching to. LOL

Hmm, very hard question here.

I would say you have the right idea, but are going about it the wrong way. "Ask my permission", that sounds plain awful. If your daughter respects you and has been raised the right way, you should have nothing to worry about, regardless of the guy. I understand wanting to protect her, but there are right and wrong ways to do so, and this seems like the wrong way.

btw, props to MajorSpark for actually caring though. Not too many dads are around for the children growing up, led alone care enough to do something like this.

pnhasbeen;395858 wrote:Sleeper isn't insulted by your comment. And if anyone is insulted that people on a message board think Sparks daughter has probably had a dick in and around her mouth, then they have an issue.

If the girl really IS a virgin and is saving it for marriage, than good for her. It doesn't happen that often anymore. It just so happens that it's just not the norm in todays world.

I started this thread to see what some of you young guys thought of my asking my daughter this. Maybe to see if I was possibly being a little lame. You can shit on me all you want, that is fine. I did not think it would ever descend into such vulgar insinuations of her character. If I knew it would I would never have posted it. I regret it very much. I never meant this to happen.

You are a fucking asshole. Leave the sick insinuations about my daughter out of this. I have never used this kind of language on this site. But this guy and a couple of other are complete fucking assholes. Mods this thread needs to be closed now. I never thought I would request a thread to be closed but I will no longer put up with this kind of personal attack on my daughter. Close it.