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posted by justincredible

lol I know it’s been treading water for years, but politirards are the only reason that number is even positive

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Tribalism

Counterpoint: this is the only reason Justin makes anything off of this site;  people repeating the same shit for a decade and a half, and changing absolutely zero peoples’ opinion in the process.  As productive as running headfirst into a brick wall every day and wondering why it never moves and you always have a headache.

Bob Barker, 99

posted by QuakerOats

Only to alert a dumbo that they're about to cause an accident, or under an old low train bridge so the better half will say, " I knew you were going to do that".  

I think we all honk going under the Jersey Ridge one because of it being one lane plus that 90 degree curve right after it 

The timing of this coming out is suspicious, but also it’s the SEC/Mississippi and I would not be shocked one bit if it’s true.

posted by Ironman92

Looks like my county voted 60.02% yes…..way down from the Trump numbers but this was a bit different.

Everyone skewed a little more that way it seems - basically all moderates went to the no side. A handful of NE Ohio counties that went Trump in 2020 voted this down to the tune of 55-60% (Portage, Mahoning, Trumbull) - even where I’m at in reliably blue Summit County voted 54% Biden in 2020 but 66% no on this.

posted by gut

I'll be damned.  I asked a question I couldn't find quickly with google, and someone answered it perfectly and with no snark.

This whole thread was probably the most civil political one in the history of the place, for once no one really got shitty and talked through both sides like normal people. 

posted by MontyBrunswick

indeed. i think some of the big boy counties haven't reported *any* election day ballots yet. i suspect it'll get ugly once those start coming in.

Summit County (Akron) hasn’t posted an Election Day vote yet.

It seems the basis on calling it was deep red counties coming in with most of their votes way more “purple” than usual. Plus, some of those counties are almost done counting since they’re so small. 

posted by MontyBrunswick

dispatch called it as a "no" but dispatch is trash so they could very well be wrong.

The gap has barely budged so far with another 300k votes counted (68/32), it would take a miracle to flip it.

Unsurprisingly, it’s getting smoked in early vote counts by about a 70/30 margin.  Saying they’ve counted a half million votes, which is damn impressive turnout.

We shall see how much it comes back as the day of counts start in.

posted by Fletch

Over $15 million dollars pumped into Ohio from outside sources on this vote.

This is the most frustrating part I think. Both campaigns are using the “stop special interests” line of bullshit, as both sides were also about 85% funded from out of state. They all suck ass

posted by gut

Vote for better politicians.  I mean, WTF two amendments proposed PER YEAR?  Elect different people and hold them accountable to do their jobs.

Also, we are seeing how the current set-up can be easily influenced and corrupted by people outside the state.  That is certainly something that wouldn't have happened even 30 years ago, and should be concerning to everyone.

To be fair only 77 were put through, and 19 passed, by citizen initiative. The balance to get to the 227/127 numbers were our fuckhead legislators, so they’re definitely more the problem as you point out

Voted at the ass crack of 6:30 before I headed to work. About 8 of us were in line when the polls opened and a steady trickle the few minutes after. Still impressive for August in my opinion. 

posted by j_crazy

and i hate the idea of 40% of dipshit state reps having the ability to kill anything that their crazy minds want. Overall, i think i'm a no here, even though i'm not eligible to vote in ohio. 

That’s the big one. Over the past couple decades the General Assembly has just become a bunch of grandstanding morons that are there to fire off some zingers for the reporters to put on Twitter and have no desire to do anything useful. Regardless of the party involved, because that changes over time, it’s a bad idea.

Now, with the current parties involved, this is literally the Ohio GOP going “let’s see how far we can push the blind allegiance of our dumbest voters since nothing has come along to make them stop us yet”, which is also not good (again regardless of party, it just so happens to be Republicans right now).

Plus, in the 100+ years of the current law only 19 of 77 issues that made the ballot passed anyway, so it’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

Started a new job a month ago, so now I’m happy.

Sue the Sex Lady, 93

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/sue-johanson-obituary-1234781598/amp/

Nothing like flipping through the channels in college drunk as hell after the bars to come across a then late 70s woman wielding a dildo

Yeah the railroads have both parties in the bag. In addition to everything you listed, Biden imposed a contract on them to avoid a strike. So their ability to write their own rules is bipartisan.

I still work in Salem some (hybrid), right along those tracks, so we’ve been paying attention at work - it’s always weird when no trains are going by 50 feet behind us, shaking the entire damn building.

There are 2 surveillance videos from other businesses in Salem along the track of the axle already failing (red/fiery), so when it passed the defect detector after all of the Salem tracks something didn’t happen as it should have, because they said at pressers that it didn’t trigger until the next one in East Palestine, 15ish miles later, and by the time they hit the brakes it was too late and everything went to hell about a half mile from the PA border.

Potential long term effects will be interesting, as the EPA has already accused the railroad of burying some of the contaminated dirt in their mad rush to lay new track and get it reopened, so if that leeches there could be issues later that aren’t showing yet. But railroads haven’t had to answer to anyone for at least a century, it’s not like that’s magically going to change.

posted by gut

One of the holdouts made a great point that he wasn't elected to come here business as usual and just rubber stamp the Repub agenda.  I don't know if it's true, but he went on to say there hasn't been an amendment on the floor in 6+ years, meaning if you're not on committee you have basically no input and are simply expected to vote 'yes'.

Call me old fashioned, but I still like to think when you vote for a Rep or Senator that they are going to represent their constituents even if it goes against the party platform.

And, truthfully, both parties have been ruthless with people who don't toe the line.  Doesn't seem to have made policy better or more effective, either.

I think it was Chip Roy who brought up the stat about the amendments. His general point yesterday was “why is everyone so threatened about us having a debate on the actual House floor?” and to be honest he’s not wrong

Pele has been moved into hospice care since he’s no longer responding to chemo on colon cancer, so the only question now is whether he makes the list in 2022 or 2023.