Browns season 2021

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Nov 1, 2021 8:26 PM
posted by BR1986FB

My apologies to OBJ...

I take shit all the time for saying it but Baker fucking sucks and if they even think about paying him what he wants they’re stupid AF  


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 7:27 AM
posted by kizer permanente

I take shit all the time for saying it but Baker fucking sucks and if they even think about paying him what he wants they’re stupid AF  


"Sucks" is a pretty strong word. Just because OBJ's open doesn't mean he's going to catch it. Dude has had some soul crushing/game changing drops this year.

If you have another suggestion at QB, we're all ears? And don't say, "soon to retire Aaron Rodgers." Also pass on banged up Russell Wilson. Dorsey had that trade in place in 2018 and didn't pull the trigger. Cam Newton? No thanks. The 2022 draft isn't all that promising either.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 7:48 AM
posted by BR1986FB

"Sucks" is a pretty strong word. Just because OBJ's open doesn't mean he's going to catch it. Dude has had some soul crushing/game changing drops this year.

If you have another suggestion at QB, we're all ears? And don't say, "soon to retire Aaron Rodgers." Also pass on banged up Russell Wilson. Dorsey had that trade in place in 2018 and didn't pull the trigger. Cam Newton? No thanks. The 2022 draft isn't all that promising either.

Right now? nothing. We shoulda beat the Rams to the punch and traded for Stafford. Baker is better than Goff. They woulda done that. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 7:51 AM

And Actually, yeah.. I'd still take Aaron Rodgers at 37. He's still light years better than Baker. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 9:08 AM

This was posted on the Jets forum I read. Applicable here.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 9:17 AM
posted by justincredible

This was posted on the Jets forum I read. Applicable here.

Beckham's camp is actually accusing Mayfield of intentionally throwing him balls that put him (OBJ) in "bad situations" to make OBJ look bad. This isn't OBJ saying it but his father/friends.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 9:55 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Beckham's camp is actually accusing Mayfield of intentionally throwing him balls that put him (OBJ) in "bad situations" to make OBJ look bad. This isn't OBJ saying it but his father/friends.

That would be giving Baker waaaay too much credit on ability. 

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Nov 2, 2021 10:32 AM

I'd take Rodgers in a heartbeat. He's got another 3 years, which is about the time a window in the NFL closes anyway. Wilson would also be a no-brainer. Why would you say no to that? Because his hand hit Aaron Donald on a pass attempt?

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 10:39 AM
posted by kizer permanente

That would be giving Baker waaaay too much credit on ability. 

Also don't know if I'd trust a receiver who gator arms potential TD passes.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 11:20 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Beckham's camp is actually accusing Mayfield of intentionally throwing him balls that put him (OBJ) in "bad situations" to make OBJ look bad. This isn't OBJ saying it but his father/friends.


It's always something with him .......... I'd package him up and send him off for a couple picks

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 11:22 AM
posted by QuakerOats


It's always something with him .......... I'd package him up and send him off for a couple picks

He has minimal to no trade value right now. He had 3 great years but now you're more likely to see him on IR or inactive, due to injuries, than you are to see posting significant stats.

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Nov 2, 2021 11:36 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Also don't know if I'd trust a receiver who gator arms potential TD passes.

He's had his issues catching, but that ball was severely overthrown. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 11:51 AM

So Beckham's dad posted that video I posted above and Hollywood Higgins "liked" it. Mayfield's wife is liking posts saying the Browns aren't losing because of Mayfield. I thought this dumpster fire shit was over when Kentucky Fried Freddie left?

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 1:26 PM

Mayfield wants to win, first and foremost.  Some of these other guys want to catch balls, first and foremost, and hopefully win too.  That won't work.  Maybe somebody should start a "Drops" thread for the receivers. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 1:31 PM
posted by QuakerOats

Mayfield wants to win, first and foremost.  Some of these other guys want to catch balls, first and foremost, and hopefully win too.  That won't work.  Maybe somebody should start a "Drops" thread for the receivers. 

Just thinking out loud but I think some of Mayfield's issues are that he's not using the gunslinger mentality he had earlier in his career. Stefanski came in and programmed him to not throw INT's. Now that he's making the "safe" throws he's getting the criticism.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 1:50 PM

Lot of people making it sound like Odell orchestrated the video and Lebron and some other people’s comments today. Seems like he wants out

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Nov 2, 2021 1:59 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Just thinking out loud but I think some of Mayfield's issues are that he's not using the gunslinger mentality he had earlier in his career. Stefanski came in and programmed him to not throw INT's. Now that he's making the "safe" throws he's getting the criticism.

I agree 100%. Part of that is a lot of Stefanskis plays get guys WIDE open. Couple that with your coach not wanting any INTs, and you get a QB who doesnt throw to "NFL Open" and only throws to college open. That wont get it done.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 2:08 PM
posted by iclfan2

Lot of people making it sound like Odell orchestrated the video and Lebron and some other people’s comments today. Seems like he wants out

Yep

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 2:20 PM

Damn...Jaylon Smith already released by the Packers.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Nov 2, 2021 5:03 PM

Sounds like the Browns/Saints were trying to work on an OBJ deal but couldn't come to terms.- Also sounds like the Browns might just flat out cut him.

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