LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

Scroll down to read the part about Joe Thomas....

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/19/kirk-cousins-minnesota-vikings-free-agency-guaranteed-contract-mmqb-peter-king

posted by BR1986FB

Scroll down to read the part about Joe Thomas....

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/03/19/kirk-cousins-minnesota-vikings-free-agency-guaranteed-contract-mmqb-peter-king

On his podcast, he pretty  much said his elbow snapping was a blessing in disguise, because he didn't think his knee would have held up for an entire season anyway.  What a wild "blessing." 

posted by Belly35

I don't think the Jets will take a quarterback I think the Jets are going to take Barkley and that leaves the Browns with a chance of Fitz  defensive back I think that's the way it's going to roll

The Jets are absolutely taking a QB. Maccagnan will be run out of town on a rail if they don't.

posted by justincredible

The Jets are absolutely taking a QB. Maccagnan will be run out of town on a rail if they don't.

Yeah, unless you're the Browns, you don't trade up for a RB.  

posted by like_that

Yeah, unless you're the Browns, you don't trade up for a RB.  

And that's exactly why I think the Giants will stay put and take a QB at #2. The Jets reached out to both the Browns & Giants to move up. The Jets offered the Giants a good haul and they didn't budge, which leads me to believe they are taking QB at 2. 

posted by BR1986FB

And that's exactly why I think the Giants will stay put and take a QB at #2. The Jets reached out to both the Browns & Giants to move up. The Jets offered the Giants a good haul and they didn't budge, which leads me to believe they are taking QB at 2. 

You said a couple weeks ago the Giants seem to believe Webb is their future.

posted by BR1986FB

And that's exactly why I think the Giants will stay put and take a QB at #2. The Jets reached out to both the Browns & Giants to move up. The Jets offered the Giants a good haul and they didn't budge, which leads me to believe they are taking QB at 2. 

I'm guessing:

1. Darnold
2. Rosen
3. Mayfield

posted by justincredible

I'm guessing:

1. Darnold
2. Rosen
3. Mayfield

If that is the case, I hope the Cardinals and Broncos REALLY like Josh Allen.

posted by like_that

You said a couple weeks ago the Giants seem to believe Webb is their future.

I don't think I said he was their "future." I know they like him....at least the last regime did.

posted by justincredible

I'm guessing:

1. Darnold
2. Rosen
3. Mayfield

Probably correct. I've heard the Jets really like Mayfield. He's probably the most ready to play from day 1. Rosen would likely be next. Darnold is going to need to sit & learn and Allen is a major project, imo.

posted by BR1986FB

Probably correct. I've heard the Jets really like Mayfield. He's probably the most ready to play from day 1. Rosen would likely be next. Darnold is going to need to sit & learn and Allen is a major project, imo.

Since we have Tyrod, this doesn't bug me.  Tyrod was very professional when he was benched for Peterman apparently.  He did everything he could to help him for that game. 

posted by like_that

Since we have Tyrod, this doesn't bug me.  Tyrod was very professional when he was benched for Peterman apparently.  He did everything he could to help him for that game. 

I'm OK if it is Darnold sitting. Not ok if it is Allen at 1, which isn't going to happen anyway

posted by BR1986FB

Probably correct. I've heard the Jets really like Mayfield. He's probably the most ready to play from day 1. Rosen would likely be next. Darnold is going to need to sit & learn and Allen is a major project, imo.

I don't know why you like Mayfield so much, but I sure as hell hope the Browns don't take him--I think he's going to be a bust

posted by vball10set

I don't know why you like Mayfield so much, but I sure as hell hope the Browns don't take him--I think he's going to be a bust

That's rich coming from you.

In all seriousness, what are your points of contention with Mayfield?

posted by Commander of Awesome

That's rich coming from you.

 

In all seriousness, what are your points of contention with Mayfield?

Well, well, well....he's short! That is all...

posted by vball10set

I don't know why you like Mayfield so much, but I sure as hell hope the Browns don't take him--I think he's going to be a bust

Because I think he could play from day 1 and regardless of his height, I think he's going to be real good.

Yeah, he had a run in when he was very young and my biggest concern with that was that he actually got chased down, and caught, by the cop (someone sign that cop to be a LBer).

Other than that...accuracy? Check. Leadership? Check. Can make all the throws (also throws a good deep ball)? Check. Busts his ass and is a hard worker? Check. Has a "I'll prove you wrong" chip on his shoulder? Check.

The Manziel comparisons are pretty much bullshit. Excpet for the height and the little "run in", he's the anti-JFF. Only thing that pisses me off about him is that he already has his own reality show which kind of stinks of a Johnny-like move.

I know a lot people don't like him because the Buckeye "homers" are pissed he planted a flag in their field. Don't want him to do that? BEAT HIM.

posted by BR1986FB

Well, well, well....he's short! That is all...

Vball might have more, I'm interested to learn more.

posted by Commander of Awesome

Vball might have more, I'm interested to learn more.

I personally think he's the best of these dog turd sandwich QB's. Rosen is the "prototype" but I question his dedication to the game and he's had a few head injuries. Darnold, I think, is going to be a "steady" guy but nothing spectacular and Allen is Kizer part 2.

posted by BR1986FB

Well, well, well....he's short! That is all...

That is currently my only contention 

posted by Verbal Kint

That is currently my only contention 

Not that he's any QB "guru" but 92.3 had Ron Jaworski on Friday and he absolutely loves Mayfield. Keep hearing the same thing over & over...."if he were 2" taller he'd be the no brainer....turn in the card."

I'm not getting into the Drew Brees/Russell Wilson BS comparisons, because every QB is different, but a big reason that these shorter QB's don't get a chance is because of the stigma of their height so they are passed on in the draft. I don't know if I'd be comfortable with a Doug Flutie height (5'10") but 6'1" (Mayfield's height) shouldn't be a huge issue.