posted by BR1986FBNot unhappy with Dorsey's trades but these FA signings are kind of garbage. The DL from Cincy is a rotational guy. The OL from Denver may not make it out of training camp and Hubbard is getting paid for limited experience. Dorsey was smart to trade before FA because it looks like he's missing out.
I'm glad, FA signings are fools gold. Dorsey has the knock for ruining cap space, rather him not do that here on guys like Malcolm Butler.
Carlos Hyde do anything for you guys? 3 yr, $15M+
posted by Commander of AwesomeI'm glad, FA signings are fools gold. Dorsey has the knock for ruining cap space, rather him not do that here on guys like Malcolm Butler.
Yeah, I get it but it's safe to say that Sashi's tanking over two years helped fuck this organization as far as a free agency destination. I wasn't expected to land every marquee FA but I did think they should be able to land one or two. Now it's looking like Solder is heading to the Giants (edit).
When Dorsey only has the "Cleveland Browns rich history" and their "great fan base" to sell to potential FA's, he really has nothing, because most FA's care about 1) $$$$ and 2) winning..
posted by wildcats20Carlos Hyde do anything for you guys? 3 yr, $15M+
He was very productive on a bad Niners team. With the new weapons on our offense, I think he has a chance to be very good. I like the pickup.
Good. Now the talk of Barkley at 1 or 4 can go away.
posted by Commander of AwesomeI'm glad, FA signings are fools gold. Dorsey has the knock for ruining cap space, rather him not do that here on guys like Malcolm Butler.
This. Let's not kids ourselves into believing Dorsey can turn this into a playoff team via FA signings. I remember some people (on this forum and outside of this forum) thought the browns would easily improve their win total after they signed some FA linemen. How did that turn out?
posted by BR1986FBGood. Now the talk of Barkley at 1 or 4 can go away.
Also this. I am not popping the champagne yet, but signing FA rbs make me feel a little better.
Gives them flexibility to go Chubb, Ward or Minkah at 4, possibly even trade down to 6 and still get one of them.
posted by BR1986FBGives them flexibility to go Chubb, Ward or Minkah at 4, possibly even trade down to 6 and still get one of them.
Trading down to 5 or 6 ( I have a hard time believing keenum/bridewater are long term answers for the broncos/jets) and still getting ward/minkah is a dream scenario imo. I would trade down with them in a heartbeat since they would most likely be trading up for a QB.
posted by like_thatTrading down to 5 or 6 ( I have a hard time believing keenum/bridewater are long term answers for the broncos/jets) and still getting ward/minkah is a dream scenario imo. I would trade down with them in a heartbeat since they would most likely be trading up for a QB.
The Bills are believed to be moving up to #3 but if that doesn't work out, would you do a deal with Buffalo to slide down to 12 & 22 (likely more)?
QB at 1. BPA at 4. Nothing has changed that thought process for me.
posted by BR1986FBThe Bills are believed to be moving up to #3 but if that doesn't work out, would you do a deal with Buffalo to slide down to 12 & 22 (likely more)?
Just for 12 and 22? Absolutely not. They are going to need to include more in that package considering other teams will be bidding for that pick. If it is not to trade down to 5 or 6, it would have to be quite the package to go down to 12/22 or wherever the cardinals are.
posted by like_thatJust for 12 and 22? Absolutely not. They are going to need to include more in that package considering other teams will be bidding for that pick. If it is not to trade down to 5 or 6, it would have to be quite the package to go down to 12/22 or wherever the cardinals are.
I said "likely more."
posted by BR1986FBI said "likely more."
It would have to be quite an offer. Their first round pick next year for starters.
Thank got for Hyde. I never truly believed Barkley was in play for 1...but it’s the Browns.
As for a trade, only down to 5/6, where you are going to get the same player regardless. No farther. Get some top 5 talent on this roster!
posted by Laley23Thank got for Hyde. I never truly believed Barkley was in play for 1...but it’s the Browns.
As for a trade, only down to 5/6, where you are going to get the same player regardless. No farther. Get some top 5 talent on this roster!
That is definitely the dream scenario.
I think Fitzpatrick is head and shoulders above Ward. Ward at 12 maybe if we made big deal with Buffalo, but most certainly not worth the 6th pick.
posted by slingshot4everI think Fitzpatrick is head and shoulders above Ward. Ward at 12 maybe if we made big deal with Buffalo, but most certainly not worth the 6th pick.
Big difference in their speed. Fitzpatrick is kind of slow for a corner. Ward has makeup speed but is kind of small.
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posted by slingshot4everI think Fitzpatrick is head and shoulders above Ward. Ward at 12 maybe if we made big deal with Buffalo, but most certainly not worth the 6th pick.
There aren't the same position though. I'd rather have Fitz as an athlete, but Ward is the better cover corner. Fitz is a self proclaimed slot corner.
