LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 10:47 AM
posted by iclfan2

There aren't the same position though. I'd rather have Fitz as an athlete, but Ward is the better cover corner. Fitz is a self proclaimed slot corner.

Plus I've heard Fitzpatrick might be better suited to safety than corner.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 11:34 AM

Daryl Ruiter@RuiterWrongFAN

Even with all these free agent signings + the draft pool, in position to roll another $35-$40 Million+ in salary cap space into 2019. Cap space is a non issue in Cleveland

11:08 AM - Mar 14, 2018

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:07 PM

If the Browns are high on Barkley, signing Hyde for 15 mil isn't going to keep them from drafting him. 

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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:13 PM
posted by kizer permanente

If the Browns are high on Barkley, signing Hyde for 15 mil isn't going to keep them from drafting him. 

Not. Going. To. Happen.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:14 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Would really suck if they did draft him. I’d absolutely hate to get a top 5 talent in our backfield who can make explosive plays for our team. The humanity! 

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:18 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Would really suck if they did draft him. I’d absolutely hate to get a top 5 talent in our backfield who can make explosive plays for our team. The humanity! 

Yeah it would suck. Top 5? LOL he's not even top RB in this class, let alone the fucking NFL.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:26 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Maybe not. But signing Hyde doesn't change anything if they want him.

Crimson streak Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:27 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

Yeah it would suck. Top 5? LOL he's not even top RB in this class, let alone the fucking NFL.

Exactly lol I would take guice, penny and Michael over him honestly 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:27 PM

With Hyde in the fold, it would be absolutely stupid to take Barkley with a top 5 pick. The top 4 priorities for any NFL are, or should be:

1) Having a franchise QB/being able to throw the football.

2) Being able to rush the QB

3) Being able to defend against the pass (DB's)

4) Being able to protect the QB (O-Line).

Having an elite RB isn't high up on the food chain. It's a nice luxury but not a necessity. This team isn't in a position to have "luxuries."

vball10set paying it forward
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:31 PM
posted by BR1986FB

With Hyde in the fold, it would be absolutely stupid to take Barkley with a top 5 pick. The top 4 priorities for any NFL are, or should be:

1) Having a franchise QB/being able to throw the football.

2) Being able to rush the QB

3) Being able to defend against the pass (DB's)

4) Being able to protect the QB (O-Line).

Having an elite RB isn't high up on the food chain. It's a nice luxury but not a necessity. This team isn't in a position to have "luxuries."

good lord, you really are full of yourself, aren't you? lol

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:32 PM

Sure, but you're going to have a franchise qb (if he pans out) whether you take Barkley or not. And that's the biggest need currently. 

Crimson streak Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:32 PM

Qb will be the number 1 pick I don’t even think that is a question. At 4 there are so many possibilities it’s unreal. Trading back a few spots or even staying there and then trading back into the first. I would absolutely be estatic with Rosen at 1. Chubb at 4 and then trading back up for Alexander. 

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:35 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Exactly lol I would take guice, penny and Michael over him honestly 

This is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever seen.....I'm not saying he is worthy of being a top 5 pick, but Barkley is most clearly the best/most complete RB in this draft.  Can block, catch out of the backfield, nice cut back moves, good power with speed and agility....reminds me of Adrian Peterson during his time at OU.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:36 PM
posted by vball10set

good lord, you really are full of yourself, aren't you? lol

No, not really. I'm not stating anything any NFL GM wouldn't say.

If you were to survey any one of them (could be an odd outlier) they are going to tell you the top priorities for a team are going to be 1) franchise QB, 2) Pass rushers 3) shutdown corners and 4) O-Line (specifically LT for the QB's backside protection assuming he's right handed). This may not be in specific order of preference. I thought that was common knowledge. Pretty much Football 101.

Selecting a RB high in the draft, more times than not, isn't really good value. If you look at the top 20 RB's in 2017, six of them were first rounders and one (Mark Ingram) was a very late first rounder. Two of those guys (CJ Anderson & Crowell) were undrafted.

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:36 PM

One of the top running back free agents this offseason, Carlos Hyde has signed a three-year deal, worth more than $15 million with the Cleveland Browns, according to Ian Rapoport, including $6 million in the first year.

Browns draft day picture changes .... with this news  Hyde would be a great veteran addition with Duke and Crow  

Belly new pics... 

#1 Bradley Chubb DE

#4 Sam Darnold QB

 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:38 PM
posted by Belly35

One of the top running back free agents this offseason, Carlos Hyde has signed a three-year deal, worth more than $15 million with the Cleveland Browns, according to Ian Rapoport, including $6 million in the first year.

Browns draft day picture changes .... with this news  Hyde would be a great veteran addition with Duke and Crow  

Belly new pics... 

#1 Bradley Chubb DE

#4 Sam Darnold QB

 

stahp

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:41 PM
posted by Belly35

One of the top running back free agents this offseason, Carlos Hyde has signed a three-year deal, worth more than $15 million with the Cleveland Browns, according to Ian Rapoport, including $6 million in the first year.

Browns draft day picture changes .... with this news  Hyde would be a great veteran addition with Duke and Crow  

Belly new pics... 

#1 Bradley Chubb DE

#4 Sam Darnold QB

 

Crowell is a New York jet

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:42 PM

The only RB I could get that would make me not think about Barkley is Leveon Bell. 

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:50 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Exactly lol I would take guice, penny and Michael over him honestly 

you two need to take a break for awhile and settle down with this nonsense. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Mar 14, 2018 12:55 PM
posted by kizer permanente

you two need to take a break for awhile and settle down with this nonsense. 

Why, because you could use the #4 (or #6, if they trade down) on one of those top 4 things I mentioned (specifically pass rusher-Chubb, or CB-Fitzpatrick/Ward)? Any one of the RB's Crimson mentioned would make a significant impact on this offense.

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