LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 12:28 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Regardless of Hue, I'm pretty excited to get this season going. With the addition of Haley, I think this team, unlike season's past, will be more than watchable. Seems like there's always a team who surprises....why not the Browns? As fans, aren't we about due?

Yeah it will definitely help if Haley is calling the plays instead of Hue. Add in better receivers and a QB who doesn't turn the ball over. They should d definitely  have a better time this year.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 12:36 PM
posted by kizer permanente

Yeah it will definitely help if Haley is calling the plays instead of Hue. Add in better receivers and a QB who doesn't turn the ball over. They should d definitely  have a better time this year.

They have a shit ton of weapons...especially if Gordon can round into form. With Landry on the roster, I don't see JG putting up the gaudy numbers he did the one year but they should be able to move the chains consistently and limit turnovers with Tyrod. With that, the defense should be improved because of additions and the fact they probably won't be spending 2/3rd's of the game on the field. I just hope they can/will run the damn ball.

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 12:39 PM

The D will be improved because Tyrod won't force them to defend a 20 yard field 3-4 times a game.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 1:45 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Regardless of Hue, I'm pretty excited to get this season going. With the addition of Haley, I think this team, unlike season's past, will be more than watchable. Seems like there's always a team who surprises....why not the Browns? As fans, aren't we about due?

If they can get some wins (by some I mean 5-7), be fun/competitive when they do, and give us hope for the future I think we can all be happy with this season.  The last time I had legitimate hope was the season coming off of Gordon's monster year, but he immediately ruined it when he tested positive.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 1:50 PM
posted by like_that

If they can get some wins (by some I mean 5-7), be fun/competitive when they do, and give us hope for the future I think we can all be happy with this season.  The last time I had legitimate hope was the season coming off of Gordon's monster year, but he immediately ruined it when he tested positive.

The only way I have optimism is if in those 5-7 wins Baker is leading them to several of them or at least looking good doing so. If TT plays the whole year and Baker sits, I won't have a lot of confidence going into 2019 because I think there's zero chance TT is here next year unless he leads them to a 13-3 record or something.

Iliketurtles Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 3:20 PM

Man I love Baker and this just makes me like him even more. 

https://twitter.com/camdasilva/status/1009845342198812672

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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 3:26 PM
posted by Iliketurtles

Man I love Baker and this just makes me like him even more. 

https://twitter.com/camdasilva/status/1009845342198812672

YA BUT HE DOESNT HAVE IDEAL QB SIZE LIKE JOSH ALLEN. /nflmedia

vball10set paying it forward
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 3:55 PM
posted by Iliketurtles

Man I love Baker and this just makes me like him even more. 

https://twitter.com/camdasilva/status/1009845342198812672

I'll reserve my love for him until after the season

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 7:18 PM
posted by Iliketurtles

Man I love Baker and this just makes me like him even more. 

https://twitter.com/camdasilva/status/1009845342198812672

Now why did cowherd have to be like that. Douche move. 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Jun 21, 2018 8:00 PM

That interview was awesome.  I really hope baker is good, because he’s the man

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 9:00 AM

My impression is this WR and TE (and some of the RB as above average in the passing game) group will make Taylor look really good.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Jun 23, 2018 6:28 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

My impression is this WR and TE (and some of the RB as above average in the passing game) group will make Taylor look really good.

It should. These are the best weapons he's ever had around him.

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Sun, Jun 24, 2018 12:07 AM
posted by BR1986FB

It should. These are the best weapons he's ever had around him.

Have the Browns had better skilled players since '89?

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Sun, Jun 24, 2018 7:54 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Have the Browns had better skilled players since '89?

2007

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Jun 24, 2018 8:04 PM
posted by Commander of Awesome

2007

Agreed. Perfect storm. K2 & Braylon had their only really good years. Joe J was solid and Jamal Lewis found lightning in a bottle for that last year. None of them performed close to that again, I believe.

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Sun, Jun 24, 2018 10:41 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Agreed. Perfect storm. K2 & Braylon had their only really good years. Joe J was solid and Jamal Lewis found lightning in a bottle for that last year. None of them performed close to that again, I believe.

Plus Joe GOAThomas and an OC worth a shit.

 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 25, 2018 8:26 AM

I'll back track a little on my "best weapons" comment. It sounds like some of the weapons Tyrod had (Watkins/Woods) in Buffalo went on to find better success without him once they left so I'll keep my enthusiasm somewhat tempered. Yes, Tyrod is better that what the Browns have had but, fact of the matter is that, he's a pretty pedestrian QB (2800 yards, 14 TD's, 4 INT'S and got benched for Nathan Peterman while the team was in playoff contention). He's not going to turn the ball over a ton but he's also not going to put the team on his back and win games.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 25, 2018 9:00 AM
posted by BR1986FB

I'll back track a little on my "best weapons" comment. It sounds like some of the weapons Tyrod had (Watkins/Woods) in Buffalo went on to find better success without him once they left so I'll keep my enthusiasm somewhat tempered. Yes, Tyrod is better that what the Browns have had but, fact of the matter is that, he's a pretty pedestrian QB (2800 yards, 14 TD's, 4 INT'S and got benched for Nathan Peterman while the team was in playoff contention). He's not going to turn the ball over a ton but he's also not going to put the team on his back and win games.

The pederson benching was a joke. It literally lasted for 3 quarters. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 25, 2018 9:12 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

The pederson benching was a joke. It literally lasted for 3 quarters. 

Understood but Tyrod is more serviceable than he is good. He'll be a decent bridge to get to Mayfield but I'm not expecting him to morph into this top 10 QB (not that anyone here has implied that) because he has a few more good weapons. He is what he is...a journeyman. He was the Browns third choice behind Alex Smith & Nick Foles. Once they couldn't get one of those guys they opted for TT.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Mon, Jun 25, 2018 9:19 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Understood but Tyrod is more serviceable than he is good. He'll be a decent bridge to get to Mayfield but I'm not expecting him to morph into this top 10 QB (not that anyone here has implied that) because he has a few more good weapons. He is what he is...a journeyman. He was the Browns third choice behind Alex Smith & Nick Foles. Once they couldn't get one of those guys they opted for TT.

I don’t Really think anyone is arguing that with you? 

No one has claimed TT is anything other than a decent, game-managing QB. 

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