Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 10:27 PM

Saw someone suggest on twitter that the browns should shut down baker these last two games to avoid any catastrophic injuries. Not a bad idea but it’ll never happen. 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 10:57 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Saw someone suggest on twitter that the browns should shut down baker these last two games to avoid any catastrophic injuries. Not a bad idea but it’ll never happen. 

I have no idea if Burfict is healthy or hurt or suspended but if he plays next week they should definitely bench Mayfield.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:04 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

I have no idea if Burfict is healthy or hurt or suspended but if he plays next week they should definitely bench Mayfield.

He doesn’t seem as angry and punishing this year 

 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:07 PM
posted by Ironman92

He doesn’t seem as angry and punishing this year 

 

He’s also been hurt and sucks.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:14 PM
posted by friendfromlowry

He’s also been hurt and sucks.

He’d definitely lost a step or two. I don’t think he’ll be a factor.

 

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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:18 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

Saw someone suggest on twitter that the browns should shut down baker these last two games to avoid any catastrophic injuries. Not a bad idea but it’ll never happen. 

FUCK THAT HARD. Beyond stupid.

 

https://www.cleveland.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/12/f1022b624c4727/freddie-kitchens-why-the-brown.html

 

Great read here from Jake Burns. I learned a lot.

 

 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:28 PM

Good article and he looks like he belongs in the Dawg Pound lol. Perfect

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 7:18 AM
posted by GOONx19

Yeah, I didn't understand why the spot wasn't at least moved closer to the line to gain. They didn't have to give him a first down, but the replay clearly showed the spot on the field was wrong.

Also, Peppers has been a liability more often than not, but tonight he played great. Good team win, all around. It's nice going into Sunday without any pressure so you can just root hard against the Steelers and the Ravens.

We must be watching a different Peppers this season, because “liability” is far from the first thing I would think about his play this season. He has turned it around and has looked every bit worth that 25th overall pick. It’s amazing what happens when you actually play him in position. His PFF grade keeps going up too. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 7:41 AM

Yeah, Peppers has been a positive this year. Don't have many complaints about him.

vball10set paying it forward
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 8:53 AM

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/browns/2018/12/16/why-the-cleveland-browns-have-best-job-opening-nfl/stories/20181216148

While the Browns might well trip over themselves — they always do — everything is in place. The franchise passer. Difference-making young talent. Flexibility. Cleveland has more than $80 million in salary cap room and a league-high 11 picks in the 2019 draft.

This feels like a franchise ready to take off, and it’s why I’d caution against being swept up by Gregg Williams. Yes, the interim coach — and offensive coordinator Freddie Kitchens — has done a good job, and he looks like Vince Lombardi next to Hue Jackson. Williams has more wins in his last five games (four) than Jackson had in 40. He deserves an interview.

But let’s not get carried away. Williams is also the guy in charge of the league’s 30th-ranked defense and went 17-31 as coach of the Bills from 2001 to 2003, his only previous experience in the big seat.

The Browns will have options. There is no need to settle.

agreed

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 8:58 AM

Since the Browns play them in two weeks, I thought I'd bring up my quick thoughts on the Ravens. Teams are going to figure out, at some point, that the Rats can't throw the ball. Lamar Jackson will either hand it off or run it himself. Someone's going to get a clean hit on him and it's RGIII Part 2. His throwing delivery reminds me of Vince Young/Uncle Rico.

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 10:16 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Since the Browns play them in two weeks, I thought I'd bring up my quick thoughts on the Ravens. Teams are going to figure out, at some point, that the Rats can't throw the ball. Lamar Jackson will either hand it off or run it himself. Someone's going to get a clean hit on him and it's RGIII Part 2. His throwing delivery reminds me of Vince Young/Uncle Rico.

Unfortunately I get the sense he's going to get ruined. He was tackled at the end of a run yesterday and appeared to come down on the ball and got up wincing. I also saw on Twitter that in his career Mike Vick never ran more than 15x a game, and Lamar has already done that three times. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 10:43 AM
posted by BR1986FB

Since the Browns play them in two weeks, I thought I'd bring up my quick thoughts on the Ravens. Teams are going to figure out, at some point, that the Rats can't throw the ball. Lamar Jackson will either hand it off or run it himself. Someone's going to get a clean hit on him and it's RGIII Part 2. His throwing delivery reminds me of Vince Young/Uncle Rico.

 

posted by friendfromlowry

Unfortunately I get the sense he's going to get ruined. He was tackled at the end of a run yesterday and appeared to come down on the ball and got up wincing. I also saw on Twitter that in his career Mike Vick never ran more than 15x a game, and Lamar has already done that three times. 


Add Josh Allen to the list as well.  He is running just as much as Lamar.  

 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 10:55 AM
posted by like_that

 

posted by friendfromlowry

Unfortunately I get the sense he's going to get ruined. He was tackled at the end of a run yesterday and appeared to come down on the ball and got up wincing. I also saw on Twitter that in his career Mike Vick never ran more than 15x a game, and Lamar has already done that three times. 


Add Josh Allen to the list as well.  He is running just as much as Lamar.  

 

I've been getting push back from a Bills fan who thinks that Allen is going to be "elite" and pass Baker as the better career QB. Allen's completion % is still atrocious but he makes up for it with his legs. That throw he had against Miami was horrid. Wounded duck that fluttered to the end zone and should've been an easy TD but fell short. I keep going back to Bernie Kosar's comment about "you can't fix accuracy."

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Dec 17, 2018 5:34 PM

Scroll down to the section that says "The Browns Are Factors"...

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/12/17/nick-foles-eagles-rams-fmia-nfl-week-15-peter-king/?cid=fmiatwKING

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Tue, Dec 18, 2018 8:11 PM

Myles Garrett & Denzel Ward named to the Pro Bowl

Six other Browns were named alternates: OL Joel Bitonio (first), RB Nick Chubb (second), P Britton Colquitt (second), WR Jarvis Landry (third), QB Baker Mayfield (fourth) and OL Kevin Zeitler (fourth).

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Tue, Dec 18, 2018 8:28 PM

Bitonio will end up making it I think. Felt he should’ve made it regardless.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 2:38 PM

Denzel Ward FINALLY clears concussion protocol

jmog Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 3:02 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Denzel Ward FINALLY clears concussion protocol

My son had a concussion back in 7th grade playing junior high football (got knocked down ,head hit ground hard). Didn't get knocked out at the time, wasn't tired, wasn't nauseous, just had a headache. So as the doctor called it, a "mild concussion". 

He didn't pass protocol for 5 weeks. Some of those smaller "mild" concussions take awhile to pass all the tests while sometimes severe "knocked out" concussions can be cleared in days. Just depends on each "brain" and how fast it heals.

 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 19, 2018 7:21 PM

Dre Kirkpatrick said the best thing Baker does is "talk" and then complmented him a little, but then said "he's short so he's not going to make the best throws in the pocket."

Has this guy watched any film this year? 

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