Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:10 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

Speaking of the defense, I saw a few posts bashing the defense and Gregg Williams last night. We’re we watching the same game?! The defense was incredible last night. 

The secondary got picked apart by Case Keenum. You said it yourself during the game. The run D was exceptional but no excuse for letting Keenum do that. Saving grace, for the Browns, was that Vance Joseph didn't have a sack and settled for a FG on that last drive. He's getting beat up by the Denver media.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:13 AM
posted by Ironman92

I think the Cincy/Cleveland game will be a hated bloodbath of sorts and someone on Cincy really pisses off the Browns and their fan base big time...then 7 days later they’ll b their biggest fans and also Steelers will be pulling for the Browns the same way

This game will be tougher than many think and it wouldn't shock me if the Bengals pulled this out. Regardless of how bad either team is, they still seem to split, when the Browns aren't getting swept. I still expect a win but not the dominance we saw a few weeks ago.

And fwiw, Gregg Williams passed Hue Jackson on the Browns all time wins list lol.

Also another thing on Williams, when he called that timeout, my understanding is that the call was a QB sneak, with the QB trying to draw the defense offsides. Williams saw the defenders were in gaps that would've possibly prevented the 1st down. Calling the TO shows that GW doesn't trust Mayfield. That's the QB's call to read that and call TO himself.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:35 AM
posted by BR1986FB

The secondary got picked apart by Case Keenum. You said it yourself during the game. The run D was exceptional but no excuse for letting Keenum do that. Saving grace, for the Browns, was that Vance Joseph didn't have a sack and settled for a FG on that last drive. He's getting beat up by the Denver media.

They gave up 16 points. I'm not going to bash the defense ever when they give up 16 points. 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 11:49 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

They gave up 16 points. I'm not going to bash the defense ever when they give up 16 points. 

You were during the game.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 12:13 PM
posted by BR1986FB

You were during the game.

I said Keenum was picking us apart on one drive early in the 1st half. That's not saying the defense didn't play well. Good try though

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 12:57 PM

Keenum led two long drives in the late first/mid 2nd qtr. the first one was good plays and good passes for Keenum and went for a TD....the next drive they did much of the same but Browns were more bend but not break.

Both defenses were very good

GOONx19 An exceptional poster.
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 3:17 PM

Titans up 7 and Colts up 20. If both those teams win, the Browns will be eliminated from wild card contention. 

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 3:23 PM

Baltimore winning as well.  If everything holds serve right now, we would need to win out, Pitt and Baltimore would have to lose out to win division.

looking that far out....we would play 5 seed which will be loser of AFC west between chargers and chiefs

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 5:27 PM
posted by GOONx19

Titans up 7 and Colts up 20. If both those teams win, the Browns will be eliminated from wild card contention. 

Not that it's going to happen, but I think we would still get wild card if dolphins lose 1, titans and colts lose next week and tie each other in week 17, and either Steelers or Ravens lose out.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 5:39 PM
posted by Al Bundy

Not that it's going to happen, but I think we would still get wild card if dolphins lose 1, titans and colts lose next week and tie each other in week 17, and either Steelers or Ravens lose out.

Just win the division

 

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 7:36 PM

With the Pitt win we have been eliminated from winning the division.

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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 7:43 PM
posted by slingshot4ever

With the Pitt win we have been eliminated from winning the division.

God I hate the Patriots and the Steelers.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 7:51 PM
posted by slingshot4ever

With the Pitt win we have been eliminated from winning the division.

Technically, they are still alive for the wild card but it's the most impossible of possible. Think the Titans & Colts have to lose next week, then tie each other in the final week with the Browns winning out.

slingshot4ever Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 7:56 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Technically, they are still alive for the wild card but it's the most impossible of possible. Think the Titans & Colts have to lose next week, then tie each other in the final week with the Browns winning out.

I know...that's why I just said the division

in addition to what you state, the Dolphins would have the lose one of their final two games.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 8:19 PM

Tell me no one on here doesn’t mind if they don’t win the last two so they can get slightly better draft position and the 4th place schedule next year

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 8:25 PM
posted by Ironman92

Tell me no one on here doesn’t mind if they don’t win the last two so they can get slightly better draft position and the 4th place schedule next year

I want to win the last 2. Fuck the division and fuck losing. And fuck the draft 

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 8:32 PM
posted by iclfan2

I want to win the last 2. Fuck the division and fuck losing. And fuck the draft 

Amen. Screw draft position. The Browns will have the best QB in the division, going forward.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 9:02 PM
posted by Ironman92

Tell me no one on here doesn’t mind if they don’t win the last two so they can get slightly better draft position and the 4th place schedule next year

In theory this sounds about right, but the Browns had the 5th toughest schedule in the NFL this year despite finishing 0-16 last year.  The league is too unpredictable season to season. 

 

Edit:  I won't QQ if they lose and help their draft position, but rather see them win and build on something going into next season.

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 9:42 PM

The order of finish will determine who we play from AFC South and AFC west. The south are all about even, so I don't think that matters. In the west, there is a big drop off after the top 2. 

 

With that said, I still hope we win out and up 4-1-1 in the division. I hate to help out Pittsburgh, but it would be sweet to knock Baltimore out of a playoff spot.

cat_lover Senior Member
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Sun, Dec 16, 2018 9:50 PM

Man it sure is nice to be playing meaningful games in December. The last three years they weren't even playing meaningful games in October.

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