2021 NFL Season thread

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 9:39 PM
posted by Ironman92

Well Gruden is out as coach of the Raiders….apparently more emails from back in the day and Raiders were left without much choice it sounds.

I haven’t seen the emails other than the original one.

If there are any emails regarding Antonio Brown, I'm sure those will be something else!

But, once again, the NFL looked the other way until a leak forces them to take action.

The one email I saw didn't seem to be remotely a fireable offense - I think a lot of NFL fans have said the exact same things about Goodell that Gruden did.  But there's apparently quite a bit more.

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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 10:58 PM

You don’t get to call Goodell a faggot and survive lol.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:03 PM

Talked about Goodell forcing Rams to draft Michael Sams

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:05 PM

Meanwhile the Colts now have no defense whatsoever. Ravens are good but also fortunate.

I’ll guess Colts go 3 and out and Tucker drills a 58 yarder for the win

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:07 PM

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:19 PM

This might be the Ravens year….geesh

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:22 PM

Ravens win the toss and will receive…..from the first play they’ll be in FG range while the Colts kicker looks like he is worse than any other kicker this weekend

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:27 PM

Colts with 2 back up cornerbacks and a back up safety in the game


Call a timeout to catch a breather…lord

gut Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:27 PM
posted by Ironman92

How did Woke ESPN ignore and look the other way on Gruden all those years?

I hope the next athlete the ESPN cancel mob comes for throws Gruden right back in their face.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:32 PM

Ravens move into first in the north

Living well!

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Mon, Oct 11, 2021 11:33 PM

What a choke. Frank Reich was awful.

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 10:40 AM
posted by gut

If there are any emails regarding Antonio Brown, I'm sure those will be something else!

But, once again, the NFL looked the other way until a leak forces them to take action.

The one email I saw didn't seem to be remotely a fireable offense - I think a lot of NFL fans have said the exact same things about Goodell that Gruden did.  But there's apparently quite a bit more.

To me, the interesting thing is that these emails are part of an ongoing investigation into Washington owner Dan Snyder and allegations into how he runs his workplace, up to and including essentially turning cheerleaders into escorts. And so far, the end result has been Snyder quietly being fined $10M and turning over aspects of the business operation to, uh, his wife. And then, to keep the vultures happy, a bunch of emails by Jon Gruden get released, as did ones this morning showing NFL super-reporter Adam Schefter giving WFT front office guy Bruce Allen the right to make edits to a story he was doing.

The question should be less about what was involved in the contents of what they're leaking and more about why they're leaking those specific things and what are they not releasing. Seems like they went for strategic releases to fire up the mob (Gruden say bad things; Schefter kiss ass to be access merchant) to distract from stuff that one or more team owners might be saying or doing behind the scenes.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 10:52 AM
posted by Heretic

To me, the interesting thing is that these emails are part of an ongoing investigation into Washington owner Dan Snyder and allegations into how he runs his workplace, up to and including essentially turning cheerleaders into escorts. And so far, the end result has been Snyder quietly being fined $10M and turning over aspects of the business operation to, uh, his wife. And then, to keep the vultures happy, a bunch of emails by Jon Gruden get released, as did ones this morning showing NFL super-reporter Adam Schefter giving WFT front office guy Bruce Allen the right to make edits to a story he was doing.

The question should be less about what was involved in the contents of what they're leaking and more about why they're leaking those specific things and what are they not releasing. Seems like they went for strategic releases to fire up the mob (Gruden say bad things; Schefter kiss ass to be access merchant) to distract from stuff that one or more team owners might be saying or doing behind the scenes.

Very telling that Gruden falls on the sword yet rich owner (Snyder) gets a financial slap on the wrist.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 12:50 PM

Of course the NFL leaks things to hurt someone that called Goodell a ***. Schefter also criticizes Goodell and most of the time is on the side of the players/coach vs ownership. Very selective leaks are happening and it should be expected from the commish and his office. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 1:00 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Very telling that Gruden falls on the sword yet rich owner (Snyder) gets a financial slap on the wrist.

NFL and its broadcasting partners in general, though. Any time it seems something "real world" gets in the way of the games, it's kind of hilarious in a way. You'll have Al & Chris (or whomever is announcing the game) do this brief and really awkwardly presented minute or so talking about it before basically giving a big sigh of relief and saying something like "Now, let's get back to FOOTBALL!"

Goodell NFL is all about "protect the shield" and for them, that means "don't let anything truly bad get released in a way that hurts things" (ie: how it took a fucking leak for the bad Ray Rice video to see the light of day).

Snyder is a super-rich owner who's been around long enough to likely have a lot of behind-the-scenes clout. There's controversy around his franchise and how his front office treats employees. A ton of emails involving right-hand man Bruce Allen get investigated. A ton of them involving the coach of a different franchise who worked with Allen in the past are the main ones that have been leaked; however, Allen's responses to Gruden haven't been included in this leak -- at least no one has discussed how he felt about "Michelin lips" or a team being pressured to draft a ghey.

Makes it a bit hard to look at things as anything other than Goodell's office helping Snyder cover up his shit, while also orchestrating a take-down of the coach who dropped a f-bomb on him.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 13, 2021 1:41 PM
posted by Heretic

NFL and its broadcasting partners in general, though. Any time it seems something "real world" gets in the way of the games, it's kind of hilarious in a way. You'll have Al & Chris (or whomever is announcing the game) do this brief and really awkwardly presented minute or so talking about it before basically giving a big sigh of relief and saying something like "Now, let's get back to FOOTBALL!"

Goodell NFL is all about "protect the shield" and for them, that means "don't let anything truly bad get released in a way that hurts things" (ie: how it took a fucking leak for the bad Ray Rice video to see the light of day).

Snyder is a super-rich owner who's been around long enough to likely have a lot of behind-the-scenes clout. There's controversy around his franchise and how his front office treats employees. A ton of emails involving right-hand man Bruce Allen get investigated. A ton of them involving the coach of a different franchise who worked with Allen in the past are the main ones that have been leaked; however, Allen's responses to Gruden haven't been included in this leak -- at least no one has discussed how he felt about "Michelin lips" or a team being pressured to draft a ghey.

Makes it a bit hard to look at things as anything other than Goodell's office helping Snyder cover up his shit, while also orchestrating a take-down of the coach who dropped a f-bomb on him.

Along with keeping up their image with Breast Cancer Awareness, Salute to Service & Critical Catch. Get involved with these things to keep up an image while sweeping other shit under the carpet (i.e. Ray Rice video you mentioned, Snyder, etc).

Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Oct 14, 2021 11:32 PM

I lol’d

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 14, 2021 11:54 PM
posted by Heretic

And then, to keep the vultures happy, a bunch of emails by Jon Gruden get released

I think everything you said is possible/accurate.

But looks like it may be as simple as Goodell and some owners didn't like what Gruden said about them, so he had to go.

I'm not sure what might have changed in the new CBA, but I still don't know why the league took no action on Watson even if HOU did basically suspend him.  That just looks super weak.  And while it's long been clear the NFL deals with it's media people like the Mafia, I can't understand how that story avoided exploding into the non-sports media.

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Oct 14, 2021 11:56 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Along with keeping up their image with Breast Cancer Awareness...

I really was kind of hoping to see Watson sporting the pink ribbon that week...probably the week he would have "tested" positive for covid LOL
justincredible Honorable Admin
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Fri, Oct 15, 2021 9:56 AM
posted by Ironman92

I lol’d

It got a chortle from me.

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