Poll: The jmog math/science topic thread...except biology, screw biology

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:13 PM
posted by jmog

Thanks, I would love to say I really worked hard at it, but to be 100% honest I was given a God given talent in math/science and it always came easy to me.

God you’re such a douche

Automatik Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:15 PM

Thanks. Next step is the FE test for mechanical. Training course was supposed to start last week, obviously not happening. Not sure if it's worth it or not. I said fuck it, just do it. Her employer is paying.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:15 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

God you’re such a douche

JFC. Stop.

Automatik Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:19 PM

People are just like that with math. Clicks for them. I'm terrible. I lived in the tutor room when I took a higher level business calc class.

I have a friend he makes 250k. Ridiculous at math, I can't put into words how good. Downside...his level of social awkwardness equals that of his math skills.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:20 PM
posted by justincredible

JFC. Stop.

Dudes bragging about his degrees on a message board lol I couldn’t resist. 

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:24 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

God you’re such a douche

Yeah, admitting I am lazy and didn’t work hard but was given a gift is so douchey. 
 

Go troll somewhere else. 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:29 PM

Let that be the end of it. 

Spock Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:37 PM

Ok....nice resume brah......but seriously....you work on furnaces with all that paper hanging on your wall?

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:42 PM
posted by Spock

Ok....nice resume brah......but seriously....you work on furnaces with all that paper hanging on your wall?

You...think he's an HVAC repairman?

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:47 PM
posted by Automatik

Thanks. Next step is the FE test for mechanical. Training course was supposed to start last week, obviously not happening. Not sure if it's worth it or not. I said fuck it, just do it. Her employer is paying.

FE/PE is essential for civil engineers. 
It is desirable and can help electrical and mechanical engineers. 
It isn’t important for chemical engineers. 
 

If she is going to continue doing MechE work then it is worth the time/effort, especially since her work is paying for it. 
 

I do not have my PE. I took the FE exam as a senior in college, passed it, and never cared about it again. 

Fab4Runner Tits McGee
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:50 PM

Just chiming in to say that engineers are weird little nerds, and I say that as someone with an engineer father and two engineer brothers. 

Carry on.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:52 PM
posted by Automatik

People are just like that with math. Clicks for them. I'm terrible. I lived in the tutor room when I took a higher level business calc class.

I have a friend he makes 250k. Ridiculous at math, I can't put into words how good. Downside...his level of social awkwardness equals that of his math skills.

Look up what EQ (emotional quotient) is and it’s inverse relationship with IQ. 
 

I am not that social awkward, compared to other engineers, but I have near zero ability to empathize with anyone and their struggles. It’s my biggest negative trait, especially as a father. Honestly tried therapy to help and my therapist literally told me “fake it, fake empathy, you don’t have the ability so fake it. The other person will get the same benefit if you fake it well enough.”

 

My oldest son just started working as an electrician for the same company I do, he is 18. After a couple weeks he comes home and says “mom, dad is not near as weird as we thought he was. Holy crap, he is the most normal engineer in the company.”

 

 

Fab4Runner Tits McGee
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:56 PM
posted by jmog

Look up what EQ (emotional quotient) is and it’s inverse relationship with IQ. 
 

I am not that social awkward, compared to other engineers, but I have near zero ability to empathize with anyone and their struggles. It’s my biggest negative trait, especially as a father. Honestly tried therapy to help and my therapist literally told me “fake it, fake empathy, you don’t have the ability so fake it. The other person will get the same benefit if you fake it well enough.”

 

My oldest son just started working as an electrician for the same company I did, he is 18. After a couple weeks he comes home and says “mom, dad is not near as weird as we thought he was. Holy crap, he is the most normal engineer in the company.”

 

 

Unfortunately, that sounds like serial killer behavior, not engineer behavior. 🙃

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 3:57 PM
posted by Spock

Ok....nice resume brah......but seriously....you work on furnaces with all that paper hanging on your wall?

I am not an HVAC repairman if that’s what you think. 
 

When I say furnace, I am talking about huge industrial furnaces for steel, glass, etc. Furnaces that are 2-7 stories tall, a football field long, burn like 100 million BTU/hr (same as 1000 house furnaces). 
 

I have done everything from R&D on the burners that go into these furnaces (sometimes 200+ burners per furnace) to design the whole combustion and emission abatement system on the furnace. 
 

Mostly I now work on helping our customers with either emission lowering or what type and how much of a specialty gas to put in their furnace to do special surface treatments to their product. 
 

I am not fixing your mom’s home furnace. 
 

Side note:no paper on the wall, couldn’t even tell you where my degrees are located. I bet my wife knows though. 

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 4:32 PM
posted by Fab4Runner

Unfortunately, that sounds like serial killer behavior, not engineer behavior. 🙃

You are not that far off. The unabomber was insanely smart with like a 167 IQ, that’s Einstein level IQ. 
 

My version of no empathy goes like this...

Person A is crying or upset about something bad going on in their life. 
A normal person sits with them, listens to their problem, lets them “cry on their shoulder”. 
 

jmog either immediately gives a 5 step logic and reason response on what they need to do in order to get out of their situation...

OR jmog literally has to walk away because it starts to fill me with anxiety. 
 

My logical list of what they should do may technically be correct, but obviously the wrong place and time to give it. 
 

If my lack of empathy went way further than it is, it most definitely heads toward the path you are referring. 
 

The best explanation I can ever give for my version of it is if you ever watched the TV show Scorpion from a few years ago, think about the main character. Good guy, extremely smart, socially awkward, and no understanding how to process his own or other’s emotions. 

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 4:54 PM
posted by Fab4Runner

Unfortunately, that sounds like serial killer behavior, not engineer behavior. 🙃

As someone who watched the first season of Dexter before losing interest a bit, I can verify that on every single show, there'd be at least one monologue by him about how he can't feel things like empathy or relate to people so he has to fake it, so there's that!

Which is about all I can add to a math/science thread. Not my forte, my interest, etc, etc.

jmog Senior Member
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Thu, Apr 2, 2020 8:02 PM

Two topics to choose for tonight/tomorrow if I get no more questions...

One more practical...

What is calculus and how is it really used in real life?

And one more “out there”...

What is the double slit experiment and does it really mean we are living in a multiverse?

 

Best of first 3 votes wins the topic.

 

justincredible Honorable Admin
37,969 posts 179 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 2, 2020 8:09 PM

One vote for calculus.

Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
4,899 posts 94 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 2, 2020 8:58 PM

One vote for Cletus

33,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Thu, Apr 2, 2020 10:24 PM
posted by jmog

Ok, since justin was begging for new threads, I decided to create one on the areas I am fairly well versed in. 

I will not allow/discuss anything political. I can discuss climate change (most controversial science topic I can think of) but will stick to science and not opinion/politics in that one.

 

So, I can do this one of two ways. I present a topic I think is interesting and give the science/math behind it first then answer questions?

Or, just start with questions that have ever bothered you and you wondered how things "work"?

If its physics, chemistry, mathematics, etc its all fair game. I am not/was not very good at biology, so I know "enough" but probably not much more than the rest of you.

If you want a background so you know what I am "capable" of discussing/explaining here goes:

BS in Chemical Engineering (think an even mixture of chemistry and physics with heat transfer, fluid flows, etc).
BS in Applied Mathematics (everything from computer programming to solve math/engineering problems to modeling real world situations with math equations)

MS in Chemical Engineering

Taught college level calculus and pre-calc classes while working on my masters in ChE.

Have worked the last 20 years directly in industrial R&D and furnace design to help efficiencies and emission lowering from large scale combustion systems (industrial furnaces).

 

So, I will add a quick poll to see if anyone is more interested in topics of my choice or just scientifically answer your questions (like, the science behind a curve ball)



Im embarrassed it took until page 2 for this to be posted. For shame, OC, for shame.

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