LOCKED: George Floyd

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:23 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m actually accusing Bundy of that...I’m not supporting the looting/rioting you dumb fuck. I’m of the belief that both the cops and the rioters are making bad decisions tonight. Bundy is ignoring what the cops are doing because he’s very clearly against BLM. 
Eat a cheeseburger big boy, and calm tf down. 

Moron, I have always said that the killing was wrong. I am upset by it. I don't want to see our great cities destroyed. If protesting can be done peacefully, I'm in favor of it.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:27 AM
posted by Al Bundy

Moron, I have always said that the killing was wrong. I am upset by it. I don't want to see our great cities destroyed. If protesting can be done peacefully, I'm in favor of it.

I’m not talking about the killing. What about police actions tonight? 

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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:30 AM

I’m embarrassed to live in this country right now. We haven’t learned shit from our past. This should be a time for marches to incite changes. To get people to the voting booths. To get something done. 

Instead, we have people using it as an excuse to riot and loot. Brandish weapons. Burn buildings. And strike fear into others... On the other side, you have police and government not allowing the non-violent protesters to exercise their rights. Arresting the media. Violating our rights on private property. Violating an insane number of the BOR. 

Its all very very sad. It’s the Boston Massacre all over again. At least that one ended up working out better for the citizens than the state (though not at the trial).

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:33 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

I’m not talking about the killing. What about police actions tonight? 

I said that the cop was wrong in the clip that you sent.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:39 AM
posted by Laley23

I’m embarrassed to live in this country right now. We haven’t learned shit from our past. This should be a time for marches to incite changes. To get people to the voting booths. To get something done. 

Instead, we have people using it as an excuse to riot and loot. Brandish weapons. Burn buildings. And strike fear into others... On the other side, you have police and government not allowing the non-violent protesters to exercise their rights. Arresting the media. Violating our rights on private property. Violating an insane number of the BOR. 

Its all very very sad. It’s the Boston Massacre all over again. At least that one ended up working out better for the citizens than the state (though not at the trial).

Yup. It’s pathetic. As Andy Milonakis said tonight, “congrats to the two astronauts who were able to leave this planet today”

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, May 31, 2020 12:51 AM
posted by Al Bundy

Moron, I have always said that the killing was wrong. I am upset by it. I don't want to see our great cities destroyed. If protesting can be done peacefully, I'm in favor of it.

I’m not saying violence is the answer, but the peaceful way was tried. It got mocked by our president & government, & jobs were threatened. 

But maybe when a knee is taken this time around people will actually listen? 

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:53 AM
posted by Laley23

I’m not saying violence is the answer, but the peaceful way was tried. It got mocked by our president & government, & jobs were threatened. 

But maybe when a knee is taken this time around people will actually listen? 

This. 
people like Bundy and ICL always look for what the other sides doing wrong. 

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sun, May 31, 2020 12:58 AM
posted by justincredible

FUCK. THIS.

https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1266942896659406848

Sounds like grounds to shoot back.  And yes, I mean that.

 

 

gut Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:05 AM

Whatever happened to stay inside and practice social distancing? 

I mean that half-seriously.  Literally a week ago [some] people were losing their shit about people being allowed to go back to work.  It's very strange to be pissed off and empathetic at the same time.

 

This is a horrible tragedy.  And I certainly respect the right to protest.  But isn't there something, at least in the media coverage, a little bit fraudulent about it all?

Al Bundy Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:05 AM
posted by SportsAndLady

This. 
people like Bundy and ICL always look for what the other sides doing wrong. 

I have said all along that I support peaceful protests. I am upset with the situation too. The only things that I have called out have been the protests that were not peaceful. I don't believe in rioters attacking innocent people and their property.

gut Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:08 AM
posted by O-Trap

Sounds like grounds to shoot back.  And yes, I mean that.

But is that not ultimately the source of all this?  Gangs shoot at cops, and then cops shoot back.  Mistakes are made.  Wash rinse repeat.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, May 31, 2020 1:10 AM
posted by O-Trap

Sounds like grounds to shoot back.  And yes, I mean that.

Only problem is you’re dead if you do that. Police have been given to much power by our government, but mostly courts. That’s a topic for a different time, though it’s certainly being utilized and weaponized by the police at times in these riots. 

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, May 31, 2020 1:12 AM
posted by gut

But is that not ultimately the source of all this?  Gangs shoot at cops, and then cops shoot back.  Mistakes are made.  Wash rinse repeat.

What? 

gut Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:20 AM
posted by Laley23

What? 

It's really not that hard to follow if you don't have an agenda.

O-Trap Chief Shenanigans Officer
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:21 AM
posted by gut

Whatever happened to stay inside and practice social distancing? 

I mean that half-seriously.  Literally a week ago [some] people were losing their shit about people being allowed to go back to work.  It's very strange to be pissed off and empathetic at the same time.

 

This is a horrible tragedy.  And I certainly respect the right to protest.  But isn't there something, at least in the media coverage, a little bit fraudulent about it all?

The "stay inside" part, taken literally, has never made sense, no matter how much or little you respect the general sentiment from the medical and scientific communities.  Anyone who has gotten out of sorts because people were on their porches is an ACTUAL case of irrational paranoia.
 

posted by gut

But is that not ultimately the source of all this?  Gangs shoot at cops, and then cops shoot back.  Mistakes are made.  Wash rinse repeat.

 

Except in your scenario, the gangs shoot first.  In my example, shooting is in defense, not as an act of aggression.  The police were the aggressors, as the private citizens were on their own property.
 

posted by Laley23

Only problem is you’re dead if you do that. Police have been given to much power by our government, but mostly courts. That’s a topic for a different time, though it’s certainly being utilized and weaponized by the police at times in these riots. 

I certainly wouldn't suggest doing so from the porch, as you're right.  And that's absurd.  The police can initiate force, firing at civilians who are on their own property, and there's not a thing the property owners can do in defense of themselves in the moment.  Their options are to do as they're told on their own property or continue to be shot at.

I'm sure hoping I see more outrage about this.

 

justincredible Honorable Admin
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justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:42 AM

We're headed for martial law, aren't we?

justincredible Honorable Admin
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justincredible Honorable Admin
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:48 AM

A for effort?

https://twitter.com/TheJaredMonroe/status/1266954266268372993

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Sun, May 31, 2020 1:49 AM
posted by gut

Whatever happened to stay inside and practice social distancing? 

I mean that half-seriously.  Literally a week ago [some] people were losing their shit about people being allowed to go back to work.  It's very strange to be pissed off and empathetic at the same time.

 

This is a horrible tragedy.  And I certainly respect the right to protest.  But isn't there something, at least in the media coverage, a little bit fraudulent about it all?

I was actually thinking that, too. No one gives a shit about COVID at the moment. 

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