Following the Trend: Escape from NY

Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 12:41 PM

It's official. I'm fucking out of here. Packing up a rented soccer mom van and driving to Denver at the end of the month. 

Bittersweet, but I'm very hyped to leave. NYC is a prison and I'm losing my mind. 10 years and I've accomplished what I came to do. 

Thinking about the actual move is giving me anxiety. I have 16 days to get it done and starting this weekend. I'm only bringing essentials and the rest of my belongings are going into storage. 

I plan on staying at my parents condo solo for 6 weeks, then freeloading off of my sister for 2 months....then my own short term place summer to early fall. Maybe then I'll head to the mountains for the winter.

First time since high school that I'm not locked into a living/lease agreement. Feels liberating! 


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 12:45 PM

Good to hear. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 1:02 PM

Well done! Did you end up buying a vehicle?

Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 1:04 PM

Not yet. I can't make a purchase until mid-late April. I have use of a car until then. Right now I'm just getting my ducks in a row, establishing residence, getting CO license, etc. 

95% going with a 4Runner, probably a 2021. I'm going to stick with the broker. The process is been so simple and tailored, would recommend.

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 1:26 PM

Congrats.

sportchampps Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:53 PM

Spend the winter in Crested Butte it’s bea

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 3:59 PM
posted by Automatik

 NYC is a prison 

INB4 QO or like highlights this as evidence of the failure of the American experiment due to the "Marxist Left".

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:20 PM
posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

INB4 QO or like highlights this as evidence of the failure of the American experiment due to the "Marxist Left".

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:23 PM

I heard 1000 a day are moving to Florida. Not sure what the rate was in previous times.

Automatik Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:29 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 


I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 8:33 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

I think it's mostly about taxes, at least in the case of NY and CA.  Although there have been more than a few articles about people struggling financially who are hoping to move somewhere cheaper and keep working remotely.

But I'm not sure how many people will get to keep working remotely.  I'd say it depends on the business.  And, uh, if companies find more of their employees can work remotely than they imagined, they'll start thinking about outsourcing to much smarter and cheaper folks overseas.

Dr Winston O'Boogie Senior Member
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Wed, Feb 10, 2021 9:19 PM
posted by Verbal Kint

Is that not true with statistical evidence?  NY, CA, IL, MI, PA are among the leaders in population fleeing.  Maybe I am misunderstand what is going on there.

I'm sure it is true. I just literally wanted to get a comment in before QO posted his "I'm disgusted" replies. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Thu, Feb 11, 2021 9:12 AM
posted by Automatik

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 


I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

Pretty much (pre covid), why I was over DC.  Even if I didn't get this current job in Italy, we were planning to move to another state.  We were paying a premium to live in DC and our friends were starting to get lame.  Social benefits were no longer worth the price.
QuakerOats Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 11, 2021 10:22 AM
posted by Automatik

It's official. I'm fucking out of here. Packing up a rented soccer mom van and driving to Denver at the end of the month. 

Bittersweet, but I'm very hyped to leave. NYC is a prison and I'm losing my mind. 10 years and I've accomplished what I came to do. 

Thinking about the actual move is giving me anxiety. I have 16 days to get it done and starting this weekend. I'm only bringing essentials and the rest of my belongings are going into storage. 

I plan on staying at my parents condo solo for 6 weeks, then freeloading off of my sister for 2 months....then my own short term place summer to early fall. Maybe then I'll head to the mountains for the winter.

First time since high school that I'm not locked into a living/lease agreement. Feels liberating! 


Congrat's on your freedom.  Welcome to America!


Good luck!

Automatik Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 11, 2021 10:24 AM

I was born and raised in America, but ty!

Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 11, 2021 12:25 PM
posted by Automatik

No idea about the others, but in my case paying a premium price to live somewhere and not being able to enjoy what comes along with it is the worst. 

The kicker is getting paid an NYC salary and being able to NOT live in NYC. City taxes...goodbye. State tax obviously less. This is the main driver of why I'm out. 


I read a random article saying 100k a month are moving into the state of CO. 

Nice the cost of living salary follows you, enjoy the fresh air in CO.


Verbal Kint Senior Member
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Thu, Feb 11, 2021 12:29 PM
posted by gut

I think it's mostly about taxes, at least in the case of NY and CA.  Although there have been more than a few articles about people struggling financially who are hoping to move somewhere cheaper and keep working remotely.

But I'm not sure how many people will get to keep working remotely.  I'd say it depends on the business.  And, uh, if companies find more of their employees can work remotely than they imagined, they'll start thinking about outsourcing to much smarter and cheaper folks overseas.

I find that there is a collelation between the philosophy of the elected officials and the amount of taxes imposed on the population in that state.  I can see southern CA and NYC being worth it to some to pay that cost of living for the benefits of either weather or social scene.  Don't find the same reasons for metro cities in Illinois, Michigan, Pennsylvania.


Automatik Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 2, 2021 11:18 AM

The move is complete.


Wow, what a fucking drive. Kansas....THE WORST.

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Tue, Mar 2, 2021 11:38 AM
posted by Automatik

The move is complete.


Wow, what a fucking driver. Kansas....THE WORST.

Never driven through, but I've heard it's flat and boring.

Automatik Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 2, 2021 11:45 AM

It makes Illinois look like Vegas.

I've never seen anything so desolate and flat. Also very very windy. Didn't see a single cop the entire drive through the state.

You go right through the the Smoky Hills Wind Farm, so that was cool.

QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Mar 2, 2021 12:16 PM

So the "we're not in Kansas anymore" phrase now has real meaning.

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