Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:13 PM

I'm expecting this game tomorrow night to be a dogfight. The Jets rushing attack showed some signs of life with Breece Hall and their defense is tough. They also have a very good special teams unit. That's something to watch with the possibility of a backup punter for the Browns. Plus, it's never easy for the Browns.

Watson is back at the facility. Hopefully he's been watching Flacco and the lightbulb has gone off in his head where he says "gee, maybe if we run play action from under center, instead of shotgun (like I do 90% of the time), like Joe does, maybe it will open up throwing lanes and I can use my legs more to may the offense more explosive/dynamic" But I doubt it since all of these pups have to go from the gun and hamper the running game. Watson needs to morph his game more towards Stefanski's offense than vice versa. Stefanski has proven it works with a 39 year old "washed" QB and a middle of the road QB in Mayfield. It would explode if Watson bought in.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:33 PM

I expect this to be a tough game for Cleveland’s offense. Sauce vs Cooper….Jets should get some pass rush. Yeah the Jets suck but I expect this to be a 20-17 game either way….the Browns are trending nicely towards being a major contender in the end….so maybe they just roll them 30-9

Go Izzy

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:36 PM

Browns have become very one dimensional. If their tackles were healthy I'd expect a much better rushing attack. Jets have a solid pass rush so I hope Flacco doesn't start throwing it up for grabs.

I do expect the defense to be super amped in that atmosphere and be in the Jets backfield all night.

It will be a "white out" as the Browns will be in all white's, including helmets.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:42 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Browns have become very one dimensional. If their tackles were healthy I'd expect a much better rushing attack. Jets have a solid pass rush so I hope Flacco doesn't start throwing it up for grabs.

I do expect the defense to be super amped in that atmosphere and be in the Jets backfield all night.

It will be a "white out" as the Browns will be in all white's, including helmets.

Browns at home I didn’t realize….leaning more towards the 30-7.


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:44 PM
posted by Ironman92

Browns at home I didn’t realize….leaning more towards the 30-7.


They've only lost one at home, and that was the DTR finding out he was starting 30 minutes before the game debacle against the Rats. Hope the home field magic continues. It will definitely be an electric/playoff-like atmosphere.

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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:48 PM

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:52 PM
posted by BR1986FB

They've only lost one at home, and that was the DTR finding out he was starting 30 minutes before the game debacle against the Rats. Hope the home field magic continues. It will definitely be an electric/playoff-like atmosphere.

As a Browns die hard would you prefer Flacco be upright like last game and win easily or Flacco be challenged with many QB hurries from great pass rush and some sacks but adjust and prevail?


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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 1:56 PM
posted by Ironman92

As a Browns die hard would you prefer Flacco be upright like last game and win easily or Flacco be challenged with many QB hurries from great pass rush and some sacks but adjust and prevail?

Upright. I am not worried about Flacco and his pocket presence and adjusting to the game. He’s done it and is a veteran. Stay healthy. Keep learning the playbook. Make the playoffs. 

Each game it seems more and more plays are being incorporated for him, and more and more elaborate no huddle/audibles. Just need that to continue and the offense should be formidable enough to give them a chance if the D travels…

BRF Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 2:34 PM

Also, today is the 59th anniversary of the Browns last championship. 

(I actually had to use my calculator to make sure I had this right)

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 9:27 PM
posted by Ironman92

As a Browns die hard would you prefer Flacco be upright like last game and win easily or Flacco be challenged with many QB hurries from great pass rush and some sacks but adjust and prevail?


I'm with Laley on this one. My nervousness is more due to the Jets defense, specifically their front 4 and secondary, than the Browns losing to them. Browns could lose both games and still have a 99% chance of getting in. 

Flacco is a bit more mobile than many thought (play action) but the Browns dodged a bullet against Houston with their top edge rusher getting injured early.

The Jets have 5-6 guys who can get to the passer, both from the interior and on the edge. If their corners hang with Cooper, Moore, etc for any length of time, it's going to allow the pass rush to get home. Browns tackles absolutely suck so KS is going to have to scheme help from TE's, RB's & WR's chipping.

My biggest concern, more than losing, is losing Flacco due to injury. Nobody wants to see PJ Walker again. And the norm is now 40+ drop backs for Flacco every game due to the anemic rushing attack.

I don't expect much from the Jets offense, in this hostile environment, but I've definitely been wrong before. Unless the Browns start gift wrapping them points, it should be tough sledding for their offense. This could be a "get right game" in the DPOY conversation for MG95.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 9:35 PM

Such an embarrassing sponsor but if anyone's going to the game tomorrow night and want an upgrade on an old jersey. I tried to give a homeless dude a Manziel jersey and he threw it back at me.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Wed, Dec 27, 2023 9:41 PM

Lol

BR1986FB Senior Member
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BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 8:06 AM

Game day. Still pretty nervous about this one. Win and you're in. GO BROWNS !!!

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 8:50 AM

And the Browns may be without Cooper tonight...

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 10:30 AM

Hopefully this continues...

gut Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 11:57 AM

Doesn't seem like Thursday night games have been AS BAD this year, but seems almost unfair to subject teams to that late in the season when they are pushing & preparing for the playoffs.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 12:03 PM
posted by gut

Doesn't seem like Thursday night games have been AS BAD this year, but seems almost unfair to subject teams to that late in the season when they are pushing & preparing for the playoffs.

This one could be the ugly Pats vs Steelers game we were expecting, offensively, from a few weeks ago.

Ironman92 Administrator
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 12:34 PM

23-6 Browns

Heretic Son of the Sun
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Thu, Dec 28, 2023 2:04 PM
posted by gut

Doesn't seem like Thursday night games have been AS BAD this year, but seems almost unfair to subject teams to that late in the season when they are pushing & preparing for the playoffs.

I was surprised that neither Cleveland nor the Jets played Saturday last week. Seems like going Sunday-Saturday-Thursday would be a bit preferable as far as giving players rest time for those rare late-season weeks where that is an option. Especially since it is late in the season and everyone's banged up to some degree.

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