Cleveland Browns 2023 Season Thread

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 12:55 PM
posted by Laley23

Somehow, it will end up 6-1. 

Mostly, because I JUST learned you can score a single point in football, and I want it to happen so badly. 

I didn't realize this was possible so I'm going to take a guess.

The other team is kicking a PAT, you block it, return it to FG range but there is a penalty on the other side allowing you to kick a PAT?

Not sure if that can happen or not but it's the only 1 point scenario I can think of.

jmog Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 1:29 PM
posted by justincredible

I didn't realize this was possible so I'm going to take a guess.

The other team is kicking a PAT, you block it, return it to FG range but there is a penalty on the other side allowing you to kick a PAT?

Not sure if that can happen or not but it's the only 1 point scenario I can think of.

You got the fact that it happens on a PAT part right.


But basically if the offense on any type of PAT runs back enough that they give up a safety on a PAT. That safety is worth 1 pt not 2.


justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 1:42 PM
posted by jmog

You got the fact that it happens on a PAT part right.


But basically if the offense on any type of PAT runs back enough that they give up a safety on a PAT. That safety is worth 1 pt not 2.


OHHHH. That makes sense.

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Oct 16, 2023 2:08 PM

Yeah, if its returned as a TD; its 2 points for defense. If its returned as a saftey; its 1 point. Could be on a PAT or 2pt attempt. 

friendfromlowry Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 2:50 PM

Yeah it’ll be interesting what the over/under is on that game. Everyone will hammer the under and watch it go over by 0.5 on some controversial bullshit. 

Ironman92 Administrator
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 2:59 PM
posted by Laley23

Somehow, it will end up 6-1. 

Mostly, because I JUST learned you can score a single point in football, and I want it to happen so badly. 

How so? Return an XP attempt or something?


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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 3:19 PM
posted by Ironman92

How so? Return an XP attempt or something?


PAT or 2PT attempt, and you saftey the offense, it is 1 point. Not return it (like a TD -- that would be 2 points), but the offense somehow runs back with the ball 90ish yards, or whatever and you get a "safety" lol.

Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 3:51 PM

I want to see a fair catch kick. It hasn’t been done since 1976

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 4:00 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

I want to see a fair catch kick. It hasn’t been done since 1976

Really? I figured with guys like Justin Tucker around it would be more common.

Also, you'd need the perfect storm for that to happen (end of half/end of game) and the fair around midfield or in.

Also, I forgot how that works. I know they have the option of a dropkick or a placekick but is it off the ground with a holder or off a tee?

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Oct 16, 2023 4:51 PM

Thats not true. I have seen multiple attempts in my life. Mason Crosby I for sure remember trying. Unless you mean a successful kick, then yes, its been that long. 


EDIT: Found a list. It has happened 5 times in the last 20 years. 

  1. Rob Bironas, Tennessee vs. Houston Texans, October 9, 2005.
    Short from 58 yards at the end of the first half.
  2. Neil Rackers, Arizona vs. New York Giants, November 23, 2008.
    Short and wide left from 68 yards at the end of the first half.
  3. Mason Crosby, Green Bay vs. Detroit, December 29, 2008.
    Just short from 69 yards at the end of the first half.
  4. Phil Dawson, San Francisco vs. St. Louis, September 26, 2013
    Short and wide left from 71 yards at the end of the first half.
  5. Joey Slye, Carolina vs. Tampa Bay in London, October 13, 2019.
    Wide right from 60 yards at the end of the first half.
Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:01 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Really? I figured with guys like Justin Tucker around it would be more common.

Also, you'd need the perfect storm for that to happen (end of half/end of game) and the fair around midfield or in.

Also, I forgot how that works. I know they have the option of a dropkick or a placekick but is it off the ground with a holder or off a tee?

You can place kick without a tee/ with holder or dropkick.  

Could you imagine a 75 yd game ender?


BRF Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:10 PM

I remember seeing this tried many decades ago. But with the kicker legs of today……it would be interesting. 

BRF Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:14 PM

Also, Laley23: So if the offense happens to go all the way back for a safety on an XP attempt, it is 1 point?

BRF Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:16 PM
posted by Devils Advocate

You can place kick without a tee/ with holder or dropkick.  


I seem to remember that you could have it on a tee. 
BR1986FB Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:20 PM
posted by Devils Advocate  

Could you imagine a 75 yd game ender?


Tucker
Devils Advocate Brudda o da bomber
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 5:20 PM

Fair catch free kick link

justincredible Honorable Admin
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 8:06 PM

I'd love to see the Jets give Zuerlein a chance to do something like this.

BRF Senior Member
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Mon, Oct 16, 2023 8:10 PM

Speaking of drop kick…….when I was little, I used to practice that.  It takes some pretty good coordination. 

Some teams used to use that for an extra point kick. 

33,369 posts 133 reps Joined Nov 2009
Mon, Oct 16, 2023 8:14 PM
posted by BRF

Also, Laley23: So if the offense happens to go all the way back for a safety on an XP attempt, it is 1 point?

Correct. The only real time or real way this could happen is like that college game where the fumble kept getting kicked and fumbled all the way back. And the  offense falls on it in the endzone or it goes out of bounds thru endzone. 

I guess one other would be a fumble or int for defense, but caught at the last minute and fumbles it then it’s recovered by offense and tackled in endzone. But I’m not sure if the change of possession mid try would effect that at all??

I can’t imagine any other scenario where the offense is in possession and runs all the way back that far and gets safetied.


BR1986FB Senior Member
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Wed, Oct 18, 2023 1:55 PM

Watson spoke with the media. Says it's some kind of "micro tear." Sounds like he can throw but not get enough behind it. I don't expect to see him against the Colts from how it sounded.

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