posted by Devils AdvocateWow. Tax cuts and huge defect spending increases GDP. I guess Obama was right
Whodathunk?
Except the government was shut down for half the quarter, and that was going to crater the economy and there was wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Try again.
I guess that makes Trump the anti Christ
Make Armegedon Go Away
posted by QuakerOats
APRIL JOBS +263K
UNEMPLOYMENT 49-YEAR LOW
WAGE HITS $27.77 HOUR!
maga
Nobody could have predicted that the economy would improve when you increase the budget deficit! #WayToGoTrump #MAGA
posted by BoatShoesNobody could have predicted that the economy would improve when you increase the budget deficit! #WayToGoTrump #MAGA
Spending as % GDP has gone down each of the last 2 years. Actual spending has gone up, but compared to GDP is has not.
You have always been a proponent of spending whatever it takes, only recently (probably to fit your narrative) have you been just as "happy" with tax cuts bringing in "less revenue".
Since Spending as a percent GDP has gone down it kind of debunks your Keynesian philosophy no matter how you try to move the goal posts to act like you are all for tax cuts all the sudden since it is "deficit creating". You never cared about deficits, that part is true, but you were always on the "just spend more money regardless of the deficit" you never cared about cutting taxes until Trump did it and it has worked.
….manufacturers have added 17,000 workers per month over the past 12 months, a solid rate overall, and there were 12,838,000 employees in the sector in April, the most since December 2008.
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GALLUP: TRUMP APPROVAL HITS HIGH; TOPS OBAMA AT SAME TIME IN PRESIDENCY...
And that is with non-stop bashing from the MSM, 24/7/365. He’d be at 70% if not for the media carrying the water of the democrat party. Sickening.
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He'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.
posted by gutHe'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.
posted by QuakerOats
And that is with non-stop bashing from the MSM, 24/7/365. He’d be at 70% if not for the media carrying the water of the democrat party. Sickening.
You are both right.....
posted by gutHe'd be a lot higher if he didn't constantly act like a 3rd grade on Twitter.
My opinion Trump himself has cost him about 10% by acting like a 3rd grader. The MSM constant negativity has probably cost him another 10%.
If Bush, Obama, anyone else had the same numbers and successes they would have been at 70%. No POTUS will really break 70-75% as there will always bee 25-30% of the "opposite" side who will never like them no matter what they do right.
posted by jmogMy opinion Trump himself has cost him about 10% by acting like a 3rd grader. The MSM constant negativity has probably cost him another 10%.
If Bush, Obama, anyone else had the same numbers and successes they would have been at 70%. No POTUS will really break 70-75% as there will always bee 25-30% of the "opposite" side who will never like them no matter what they do right.
Perhaps. His trade war talk is also not helping things. As I'm sure the economy would be doing even better if not for his dumb trade war tariff stuff.
But, the more I think about it recently, the more I think Trump is like Clinton, but Bill Clinton. A shady dude that people do not like personally, but as long as the economy is doing well can be mildly popular job approval wise. I think if Trump can really hone in and hammer the economic message as long as it continues to improve, he will be damn near impossible to beat. People hated Clinton's personal life, but his job approval ratings never really dipped in his later years. This could be the lesson for Trump.
US Steel to build 2 plants in Pa.
US Steel's Edgar Thomson mill in Pennsylvania will receive the first US facility to combine thin-slab casting with hot-rolled band production in a continuous process. The investment will also add a cogeneration facility at the Clairton Coke Plant as US Steel moves "from playing defense to offense," CEO David Burritt says.
How refreshing! We have gone from “you didn’t build that” and “those jobs aren’t coming back”, to real investments in real assets and real jobs.
The differences between the socialists and Marxists, and the republicans and capitalists have never been more clear in this country.
posted by ptown_trojans_1This could be lesson for Trump.
Well, that kinda seals the deal for President Biden, then, doesn't it? lol
posted by ptown_trojans_1Perhaps. His trade war talk is also not helping things. As I'm sure the economy would be doing even better if not for his dumb trade war tariff stuff.
But, the more I think about it recently, the more I think Trump is like Clinton, but Bill Clinton. A shady dude that people do not like personally, but as long as the economy is doing well can be mildly popular job approval wise. I think if Trump can really hone in and hammer the economic message as long as it continues to improve, he will be damn near impossible to beat. People hated Clinton's personal life, but his job approval ratings never really dipped in his later years. This could be the lesson for Trump.
You know, I've not heard anybody else articulate this take, but it makes a lot of sense. Reps.
I'm struggling to understand how US steel companies are expanding. That seems like a potentially risky bet that the next POTUS won't change course on trade.
posted by ptown_trojans_1Perhaps. His trade war talk is also not helping things. As I'm sure the economy would be doing even better if not for his dumb trade war tariff stuff.
But, the more I think about it recently, the more I think Trump is like Clinton, but Bill Clinton. A shady dude that people do not like personally, but as long as the economy is doing well can be mildly popular job approval wise. I think if Trump can really hone in and hammer the economic message as long as it continues to improve, he will be damn near impossible to beat. People hated Clinton's personal life, but his job approval ratings never really dipped in his later years. This could be the lesson for Trump.
We may disagree some on the tariff stuff. Originally I thought it was a terrible idea, but the resurgence in US steel plants I have seen (I work close in that industry) over the last year has started to sway me towards believing it wasn't a terrible idea.
Steel plants, CEOs, workers, etc are pretty much all saying that it is coming back from China/Mexico because of the tariff/tariff talks. Hard nosed ASW union guys were praising Trump out loud and not towing the democrat/union line.
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Up and down like a bride’s nightgown.
posted by gutI'm struggling to understand how US steel companies are expanding. That seems like a potentially risky bet that the next POTUS won't change course on trade.
What 'next president'………….didn’t you know we have a dictator now.
posted by jmogSteel plants, CEOs, workers, etc are pretty much all saying that it is coming back from China/Mexico because of the tariff/tariff talks. Hard nosed ASW union guys were praising Trump out loud and not towing the democrat/union line.
Sure. It's market manipulation. It has made buying and hiring in the US the cheaper of the two options, not by allowing the market to make things cheaper in the US, but by imposing additional costs to buying overseas.
When those traditionally in support of market manipulation for their own ends are supporting someone whose party gives lip service to 'small government' and 'free market', it's probably a good idea to re-evaluate whether or not his actions are actually either of those things.
