Impressed by the Trump administration part II

Impeachment will probably become a badge of honor to a sitting president.  Although hopefully not all presidents are quite the narcissist the current one is, it will be seen as confirmation that they are legitimate.

posted by gut

Speculation that Pelosi might not send the impeachment to the Senate.  Say what you will about Pelosi, but that would be a BOSS move.

How is that a boss move? Just proves what everyone already knows, that this impeachment is a joke.

Another record high in the market ……..on the sham impeachment. :)

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

Do we actually believe none of the men in the oval office have made these funds conditional on things that aren't exactly above board.  Talk about the land of unicorns and rainbows.

I agree that is correct.  And Trump, once again, is going to unintentionally clean things up.  I still think it's an abuse of power, and if the Dems hatred for Trump brings it to light, then I think we can expect future Presidents to be held to this new, higher standard.  Of course the great irony is Trump tried to do exactly what the prior administration did to him, and he's been crying foul for 3 years.

Because part of the problem is a dysfunctional, partisan Congress has gradually ceded more and more power to the POTUS.

posted by iclfan2

How is that a boss move?

Because it makes their partisan kangaroo court the final word.  I doubt it would move the needle much, but once the Senate gets their hands on it they'll use it to further fire-up Trump's base and also cause problems for the Dems nomination process.

Of all the shocking and vulgar things Trump has said, does it ever go lower than speaking bad of the dead? 

Not sure we've ever seen evidence of empathy from this guy, and complete lack of empathy has to score pretty high on the pyschopath scale.

1. A far left magazine?  Christianity Today?  You serious, Clark?  I mean, I've know of liberal evangelicals for a long time, but Christianity Today hardly fits that bill.
    
2. Also, a "Radical Left nonbeliever" (sic)?  Dude called the book "Two Corinthians," had no idea what the verse actually said when he was asked what his favorite Bible verse was, doesn't demonstrate any real "fruit of the spirit," and banned bump stocks.  I'm not here to judge whether he is or isn't a believer, but in accordance with the point of James 2, it's hardly clear that he is, at least any more than the people he's accusing of being nonbelievers.  And he's restricted the Second Amendment more than either of the two previous administrations.

C'mon, man.

there is no reason to poke the bear here.

I'm honestly just so relieved today,  since the last president we impeached went away forever...and we never heard from him or his family again.

posted by O-Trap

1. A far left magazine?  Christianity Today?

When he's not watching Fox News, he's reading press clippings of himself.  Hard to imagine where he finds the time to campaign and golf so much.

Which sort of proves the point I've been making for a while - the President doesn't actually do anything.  The idea that POTUS "runs the country" is laughable.  It's a marketing & advertising position and you just rubber stamp all the real decisions.

posted by fish82

I'm honestly just so relieved today,  since the last president we impeached went away forever...and we never heard from him or his family again.

Well done.

posted by gut

When he's not watching Fox News, he's reading press clippings of himself.  Hard to imagine where he finds the time to campaign and golf so much.

Which sort of proves the point I've been making for a while - the President doesn't actually do anything.  The idea that POTUS "runs the country" is laughable.  It's a marketing & advertising position and you just rubber stamp all the real decisions.

According to QO, he's opening responsible for every manufacturing site currently being constructed.  Let's put it this way, Trump build more factories during his morning dump today than you and you kin will in 100 lifetimes.  Plus his dumps are "literally perfect"...people tell him that all the time.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

According to QO, he's opening responsible for every manufacturing site currently being constructed. 

He's not entirely wrong.  But it's not Trump specifically, but rather just that POTUS is not a socialist.  Even just stalling the socialist agenda for 8 years is a pretty good tailwind for the economy.

And the corporate tax cuts were a big deal.  I hope the Dems aren't dumb enough to actually try to undo those.

So, have to be 21 to buy tobacco now.  18 is good enough for the army, but not your vape cartridges.

Not to turn this into a "they can't drink, either!", but I don't imagine smoking [cigarettes] while driving has killed very many people.

Also, what are colleges going to do about this?  Are they going to start carding and busting kids for smoking like they do with alcohol?

posted by gut

So, have to be 21 to buy tobacco now.  18 is good enough for the army, but not your vape cartridges.

Not to turn this into a "they can't drink, either!", but I don't imagine smoking [cigarettes] while driving has killed very many people.

Also, what are colleges going to do about this?  Are they going to start carding and busting kids for smoking like they do with alcohol?

I seriously don't understand what the rationale is for someone to be an adult by legal standards, but for there to be laws in place for the purpose of criminalizing them for making decisions about their own lives as adults.

Fucking dumb.

posted by gut

He's not entirely wrong.  But it's not Trump specifically, but rather just that POTUS is not a socialist.  Even just stalling the socialist agenda for 8 years is a pretty good tailwind for the economy.

And the corporate tax cuts were a big deal.  I hope the Dems aren't dumb enough to actually try to undo those.

What about manufacturing plants that were built and opened while Obama was president.  Were those done in spite of him.  Isn't this all kind of convenient?

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

What about manufacturing plants that were built and opened while Obama was president.  Were those done in spite of him.  Isn't this all kind of convenient?

Obama was definitely an "anti-business" environment while Trump is pro-growth.  That matters, quite a bit, whether you want to admit it or not.

posted by gut

Obama was definitely an "anti-business" environment while Trump is pro-growth.  That matters, quite a bit, whether you want to admit it or not.

My point is that the sitting president is not responsible for the performance of today's economy.  He may put in place policies or appoint judges, etc that will contribute to the economy of the future.  But company's don't decide to build a $500 million manufacturing plant or enter a new  business because of the whims of the current president.  That's fanciful.  Every article QO reads on Drudge about a new plant opening up or a hiring binge is cited as an example of Trump's success.  The questions he never answers are if negative stories can also be attributed to Trump, and should Obama similarly get credit for positive stories that happened during his "regime".

Maybe instead of constantly looking for answers that he's unwilling or incapable of giving, you should simply cut through the knot, so to speak, and come to the understanding that he's blindly partisan to the point that, regardless of how intelligent he may be, he comes off as a frothing idiot. Every single thing that is good comes from the Rs; every single thing that is bad is because of the Ds and that's that. No deep thinking necessary, nor any use of actual logic and reason. Just a pure good/evil thing where the worth and value of everything is determined by what political party has the reins and how that can be twisted to suit his "R = good, D = bad" philosophy.

There's no point in looking for deeper meanings when dealing with a person who lives and dies by the most simplistic of viewpoints.

posted by Dr Winston O'Boogie

My point is that the sitting president is not responsible for the performance of today's economy. 

I understand your point.  And it's wrong.  Taxes and the economic outlook have a huge impact on investment decisions.  I know this because I've been in Board Rooms when these decisions are made....as opposed to the ignorant "journalist" you read imagining what those discussions look like.

Most other people who have been in Board Rooms agree with me.  It's pretty much only partisan journalists with an agenda talking out of their ass who disagree.