gut;1873636 wrote:I'm not trolling - I'm calling asinine bullshit on someone who, on one hand, says don't worry about what other people do and then goes on to clearly state people need to care what others are doing (or not doing). Don't dramatize things, really? Hypocritical much?
It IS a complicated issue where there are no black and white answers, but you can't seem to avoid contradicting yourself. By your logic, the people that need to chill out and not worry what others are doing are the people taking a knee. I never claimed that "awareness" is going to solve anything or that it isn't a component. The point was there is no lack of awareness or shortage of people bringing attention to the issue. This is obviously the sort of thing that antagonizes rather than brings people together, and if you can't see how that is counterproductive then I'm not the one lacking "awareness".
What you can't seem to grasp is, yes, people want to ignore and not care what the kneelers are doing - they just want to watch a fucking football game without politics being shoved in their face in yet another outlet. So don't get all butthurt when people express their free speech and their right to "protest" the protests by saying "I don't want to see that, not here and not now". Those people are just as entitled to that opinion as the kneelers are to theirs.
Kneeling is not activism. It doesn't do squat when there is absolutely no lack of awareness. It's just not a particularly smart or effective way to go about bringing change.
No you're just completely missing the point. When a player kneels and it fires you up b/c you disagree with it and you throw your hand up and call names and claim you're never watching a sport .. ie:getting butthurt.. all you're doing is creating a further division. When you see someone protesting outside a planned parenthood and you lose your shit b/c theyre trying to control your body !! and now you hate religion!! and muh rightz!! you're creating further division. It's possible to acknowledge it, say well i don't fully agree but I can see why they're doing what theyre doing (inequality, baby rights) and go on about your day. To get butthurt and spew more shit compounds the divide. It's stupid. It's counter productive. You may not agree with what someone is doing, but ..tough shit. It's their right.. leave um alone.. go about your life. don't push the divide even further.
And the point of kneeling is about awareness, dude. It's about making people see you and what your issue is. Yes obviously people know theres racism in America. There's racism in every country in the world too. And I'm sure most every country realizes it. But I'll reference laley's post in #119 and expand on it... it's not hard to see people talk/make comments who are coompletely unaware there's white privilege. Hell I didn't believe it originally either. I'm just an average guy who doesn't have anything special in life. Who TF helped me? But then you travel around the country/world and sit back an recognize little things like... yeah people tend to judge me less and are more willing to help me than that black or mexican dude they're probably a little scared of. And I don't feel thats my fault, but it's still a fact of life. It's tough to see sometimes, and I don't want to fully get into it and make a politcal war .. but, to me, it's there. And a lot of people don't see it. And listening to people who believe in the protests ... that's a main issue of theirs. So, there's still a lot of people unaware, and that's one of the points of this protest. It worked for me, I guess? I'd imagine, largley, it's not working though, no.
