I actually think that it would be a classical liberal way of thinking to think that forcing people to stand is wrong.Terry_Tate;1873630 wrote:I know many conservatives that make fun of liberals perceived mentality of "You can think whatever you want to... as long as it's what I think", but it is the exact same thing that some conservatives are doing right now. I am a conservative myself, which is why I don't have any problem with the players taking a knee during the Anthem, it's their right. If people disagree with them taking a knee that's fine, it's a free country, but saying they should be forced to stand completely goes against what conservatives should think IMO.
They can penalize IF they want to -- a good example is for the Buffalo Bills running back who did nothing respectful and essentially mocked the protest.fish82;1873522 wrote:If it was a "recommendation," there really wouldn't be a reason to mention penalties at all.
You can dance around the semantics all you'd like...no skin off my nose. At the end of the day, it's league policy, and not disputable.
Then why mention penalties at all? Just say "we'd like you to please stand at attention for the anthem, but it's cool if you don't," and be done with it.OSH;1873650 wrote:They can penalize IF they want to -- a good example is for the Buffalo Bills running back who did nothing respectful and essentially mocked the protest.
Recommendations are completely different than mandates. It says "should." What happens if you can't? That means you're still breaking policy. Policy also does allow for certain people groups to respond how they feel with the national anthem (i.e., those that do not believe in celebrating/praising something other than their "god").
Difference in policy (example):
-- You should get your flu shot before winter comes.
-- You shall get your flu shot before winter comes.
One is a recommendation. The other is a mandate. You are recommended to get a flu shot VERSUS you must get a flu shot. The ambiguity gives Gooddell the power and authority he likes so much.
SportsAndLady;1873578 wrote:Ratings didn't drop across the country, but Quaker knows a few whackjobs who will NO LONGER WATCH ANTHER GAME! So yeah the ratings will def fall!
kizer permanente;1873617 wrote:Do you know what a lot of America needs? To grow up and quit worrying about what everyone else is doing and taking it personally when it doesn't matter to your life. Someone knelt down. Big fucking deal. Meanwhile I had to replace my sump pump bc it actually was affecting my life. Worry about the sump pumps in life, not what other people are doing.
Yeah, like I said he would slip up and show his true colors eventually.superman;1873640 wrote:Well SQ made it almost 2 full months on his name screen name before going full SQ. Never go full SQ.
No, the ss SS is saying to stand and HILE the flag.QuakerOats;1873656 wrote:Incredibly shallow, and incredibly scary. The SS could be walking down your street pulling innocent people out of their homes and you wouldn't care because it didn't affect you that minute. Mind numbing. Are you really that stupid, or just faking it.
Yes QQ... athletes kneeling and hurting your feelz is the same thing as people being pulled from their homes.QuakerOats;1873656 wrote:Incredibly shallow, and incredibly scary. The SS could be walking down your street pulling innocent people out of their homes and you wouldn't care because it didn't affect you that minute. Mind numbing. Are you really that stupid, or just faking it.
What???BRF;1873620 wrote:Maybe because they find it offensive that those types are allowed to play and make millions, then protest against the system?
kizer permanente;1873665 wrote:Yes QQ... athletes kneeling and hurting your feelz is the same thing as people being pulled from their homes.
Devils Advocate;1873664 wrote:No, the ss SS is saying to stand and HILE the flag.
You're upset people are kneeling in protest. There's nothing but feelings involved.QuakerOats;1873668 wrote:I don't think with my feelings; you remain incredibly misguided.
The penalty comment in the policy talks about being on the field. It has nothing to do with standing, sitting or kneeling.fish82;1873651 wrote:Then why mention penalties at all? Just say "we'd like you to please stand at attention for the anthem, but it's cool if you don't," and be done with it.
They aren't protesting the flag, you dummy.QuakerOats;1873531 wrote:Yes, they would. And the reason remains, they are aiming their protest at the flag which represents our country and constitution. That should not be the target, at all. They should be standing and cheering for the flag because it represents the freedoms that allow them to assemble and protest and work for the change they wish to see. They are literally protesting against the very mechanism which affords them their right to make change. It is astonishing how short-sighted and, simply, stupid they are by proceeding in the manner they have chosen.
Perpetually triggered. What a shitty way to live. :laugh:kizer permanente;1873670 wrote:You're upset people are kneeling in protest. There's nothing but feelings involved.
I asked a question. Didn't say it was how I felt.Laley23;1873666 wrote:What???
No, if you are turning your back because of this, but not the other issues the NFL players have done, you're a POS human.
You poor misguided Trumpsucker. The flag represents the idolatry of the wars this nation has been involved in for 224 of it's 241 years.QuakerOats;1873669 wrote:The flag represents the constitution which is the WALL between government tyranny (your "Hile" group) and THE PEOPLE.
Christ are you ignorant.
The "you" was directed at people who fit my description, in general, not you.BRF;1873675 wrote:I asked a question. Didn't say it was how I felt.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 90% of your posts are butthurt feelz and the other 10% are dredging up any bit of news you can find on any site on Earth that you can claim reflects positively on the Trump presidency.QuakerOats;1873668 wrote:I don't think with my feelings; you remain incredibly misguided.
Fab4Runner;1873672 wrote:They aren't protesting the flag, you dummy.
Devils Advocate;1873678 wrote:You poor misguided Trumpsucker. The flag represents the idolatry of the wars this nation has been involved in for 224 of it's 241 years.
The Constitution insures that if you don''t want to stand for the flag, the gubmint can't force you to.
And since you addressed me as Christ, kneel before me and respect me. For I am the light. My Father has given you commandments in the Book of Fiction. It commands no other gods before him. (and you probably should not participate in activities where people work on the Sabbath)
Heretic;1873681 wrote:BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 90% of your posts are butthurt feelz and the other 10% are dredging up any bit of news you can find on any site on Earth that you can claim reflects positively on the Trump presidency.
I'm not blindly partisan and unable to think outside a narrow-minded box of my own making. So, luck is more something you need to get through, not me.QuakerOats;1873686 wrote:I guess you think so because you have a rather substantial inability to understand. I get that.
Good luck.