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Gblock
May 13, 2014 1:07pm
queencitybuckeye;1615827 wrote:I'd say the stigma was similar, albeit two generations apart.
to me, in this generation divorce and pre-marital sex are widely accepted so i guess we can expect the same for homosexuality in 50 years
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2014 1:14pm
Not going to make this a religious thread, but I think people who can't be members of a church after a divorce is a good thing. The less people that attend church the better.Manhattan Buckeye;1615832 wrote:Unfortunately rare, but it happened as per QCB's point more often years ago. There was a time when divorced people (usually women) couldn't take communion or be members of many churches and certainly couldn't have a second church wedding. Fortunately, we've evolved past that stage.
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 13, 2014 1:17pm
Perhaps, perhaps not. Divorce is terrible, both for the couple and children - it is not good situation by any means. Non-marital sex is pretty much already accepted. Very few people want a child that grows up to be gay/bi/lesbian. For anecdotal family reasons it seems like we go out of our way to make these folks more comfortable, but on the other hand we are complete hypocrites in that we wouldn't want this for our children. To the point of Sam he's been treated with kid gloves, he's going to have to prove himself to the program and show he can make the team. The media attention isn't helping IMO.Gblock;1615834 wrote:to me, in this generation divorce and pre-marital sex are widely accepted so i guess we can expect the same for homosexuality in 50 years
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Gblock
May 13, 2014 1:20pm
cant lie i dont want my son to be gay..i would be infinitly less upset if it was my daughter, but yeah i dont wish that. that being said the world wouldnt end and i would still love them the same
Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
May 13, 2014 1:39pm
This. I'd accept it, but can't say I'd be thrilled.Gblock;1615842 wrote:cant lie i dont want my son to be gay..i would be infinitly less upset if it was my daughter, but yeah i dont wish that. that being said the world wouldnt end and i would still love them the same
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 13, 2014 1:44pm
This is awesome yet people don't feel comfortable or want to talk about it. Gblock, you are smarter than me, and I have an incredibly high opinion of myself.Gblock;1615842 wrote:cant lie i dont want my son to be gay..i would be infinitly less upset if it was my daughter, but yeah i dont wish that. that being said the world wouldnt end and i would still love them the same
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 13, 2014 1:47pm
Is commander of Awesome gay??? Getting very bent out of shape over this
OSH
Posts: 4,145
May 13, 2014 2:43pm
I don't know what you are talking about with "uber religious types" giving passes for things?Gblock;1615798 wrote:for the first time ever Like that says something i agree with. the problem is those same uber religous types who use the bible to defend their stance only apply it to the gays but give passes for divorce, premarital sex and drugs etc...you cant pick and choose in my book if you want to use that argument. It is natrual to be uncomforatble tho, especially if you have never been exposed. My mother is a JW and she doesnt accept any of that. when i go home with my female gf we have to stay in seperate rooms and im a man im 40 lol
The last thing I checked, divorce is highly negative in any and every religion, same goes for drugs (if we are talking Christianity type religions, not Rastafarian), and premarital sex within the teachings of the churches have always been the same.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 13, 2014 4:34pm
This was said better than I could have said. Mostly because I am no longer interested in a rational debate with a party interested in emotional sensationalism and media driven cliches in order to advance an money hungry agenda.like_that;1615647 wrote:I don't really see the problem with this. His son is very young and so far has probably grown up seeing only a man and a woman kiss. It's not surprising at all that he had a "DAFUQ?!?!" reaction to it. I am sure his son would have the same type of reaction if he walked in on vdubbs watching porn. In that same scenario im sure vdubbs would have changed the channel as well. You can be tolerant and support others' way of life and also wish not to see it. I don't see the problem with that. I don't really give a fuck if you are gay or straight, and I believe gay marriages should be recognized, however I will openly admit that it still makes me uncomfortable to watch two men go in full out make out sessions. Does it mean I am intolerant to their way of life? No, I just rather not watch it. It's the same shit when there are sexually explicit gay scenes in movies/shows (I.e. Wolf of Wall Street, true blood, californication, etc). I don't really feel like watching that stuff, so sorry I'm not sorry that I turn my head away when those type of scenes come on.
Say is he trolling all you want, but COA, your posts are a prime example of what sleeper is talking about. Gay activists have taken such an extreme approach that it is off putting for a lot of people and that includes people like me who support their cause. They take the "we believe in this and if you don't you are an intolerant piece of shit closed minded red neck!!!!!" approach. Instead of taking a peaceful approach to preach their cause, they verbally attack anybody that isn't on their side. I assume this is an attempt place fears on others to not provide their opposing stance.
I just find it very hypocritical that the same people who are preaching tolerance and open mindedness are the same people who attack others for not having the same views. Perhaps these people grew up a certain way and it will take a bit more time for them to come around... Attacking them sure won't help. Yes, there will be some old people who will never change their stance, but fortunately our society changes by each era and as a whole we become more tolerant. It happened with African Americans and women in this country, and it will happen for gays.
In summary, I agree with sleeper, some people need to just grow the fuck up.
In other words, well said.
pmoney25
Posts: 1,787
May 13, 2014 5:05pm
Why would you be less upset if your daughter were gay?Gblock;1615842 wrote:cant lie i dont want my son to be gay..i would be infinitly less upset if it was my daughter, but yeah i dont wish that. that being said the world wouldnt end and i would still love them the same
Ytowngirlinfla
Posts: 2,295
May 13, 2014 5:18pm
This crap is getting out of hand now. ESPNFC is on and guess what they are showing instead of it. Rams news conference with the draftees.
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 13, 2014 7:24pm
Because he understands attraction to women but doesn't understand attraction to men. Or at least that's what I assume and it's understandable.pmoney25;1615943 wrote:Why would you be less upset if your daughter were gay?
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 13, 2014 7:46pm
Gosh a ruddies why its déjà vu. Every comment by the critics was made almost word for word for inter racial heterosexual kissing in the not to distant past. Geez from some of these folks we probably still get them.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 13, 2014 7:55pm
Because it's gross! Girl on girl is hawt!I Wear Pants;1615962 wrote:Because he understands attraction to women but doesn't understand attraction to men. Or at least that's what I assume and it's understandable.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 13, 2014 8:43pm
God bless Sams and the Clippers owners TY for making my mornings enjoyable.
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isadore
Posts: 7,762
May 13, 2014 9:06pm
steubbigred;1615992 wrote:God bless Sams and the Clippers owners
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I Wear Pants
Posts: 16,223
May 13, 2014 9:54pm
Totes gross.ernest_t_bass;1615970 wrote:Because it's gross! Girl on girl is hawt!
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 14, 2014 2:04am
My guess is the exponentially higher health risks. I've known (through my gay father-in-law) a handful of guys that contracted HIV and unfortunately one that passed away. I don't know many lesbians but I'm guessing the odds of them contracting HIV or some other STD is much lower.I Wear Pants;1615962 wrote:Because he understands attraction to women but doesn't understand attraction to men. Or at least that's what I assume and it's understandable.
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steubbigred
Posts: 1,392
May 14, 2014 10:51am
love it. lolisadore;1616001 wrote:
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 14, 2014 2:49pm
Out of curiosity, how'd your wife handle this?Manhattan Buckeye;1616060 wrote:My guess is the exponentially higher health risks. I've known (through my gay father-in-law) a handful of guys that contracted HIV and unfortunately one that passed away. I don't know many lesbians but I'm guessing the odds of them contracting HIV or some other STD is much lower.
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I Wear Pants
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May 14, 2014 3:18pm
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Manhattan Buckeye
Posts: 7,566
May 14, 2014 3:25pm
Naive, she didn't question him until she was 19 when her college roommates pointed out that he never remarried and kept hanging out with some guy that looked straight out of a Village People concert. It hurt her for about a year but she got over it. He's a great guy and I get along with him more than she does. The weird thing is he's never apologized to her mom, which is still a thorn in everyone's side.vball10set;1616227 wrote:Out of curiosity, how'd your wife handle this?
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 14, 2014 3:27pm
so rare for HIV that a female-to-female case made news this yearManhattan Buckeye;1616060 wrote:I don't know many lesbians but I'm guessing the odds of them contracting HIV or some other STD is much lower.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2580683/Extremely-rare-case-female-female-HIV-transmission-reported.html
Bio-Hazzzzard
Posts: 1,027
May 14, 2014 5:59pm
I saw AJ kiss his SO for the first time the day it happened. After opening your link I just saw it for the second time in my life unlike the way the MS kiss was shown over and over again.I Wear Pants;1616235 wrote:http://www.freewoodpost.com/2014/05/12/football-player-flaunts-sexual-orientation-on-live-television/
The comments at the end of this article that you posted are a bit...maybe you should just read them yourself.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 14, 2014 6:20pm
its becoming more and more obvious to me that Sam cares more about some gay movement (shocker, called him an attention whore from the beginning) than he does actually playing football. I bet he doesn't make the 53 man roster.