sleeper;1616474 wrote:Not really. Choose your partners wisely and you're fine.

The girls clearly didn't follow this step.

sleeper;1616464 wrote:Why the fuck does one need to come out? Do people who fuck dogs have to tell everyone of their sexuality? When are gays going to realize we don't care; WE DON'T FUCKING CARE.

We know you don't care, dude. When you go out of your way to tell people how you don't care virtually every day, it becomes obvious and apparent how little you care.

Heretic;1616497 wrote:We know you don't care, dude. When you go out of your way to tell people how you don't care virtually every day, it becomes obvious and apparent how little you care.

The reality is, gays will always be seen as inferior to straight people because they have needs that straight people don't have. Why should expect to be treated as equals when they openly embrace their inferiority?

sleeper;1616506 wrote:Why should expect to be treated as equals when they openly embrace their inferiority?

Why do you care?

sleeper;1616506 wrote:The reality is, gays will always be seen as inferior to straight people because they have needs that straight people don't have. Why should expect to be treated as equals when they openly embrace their inferiority?

Wut.

Mohican00;1616507 wrote:Why do you care?

He cares more than the gay people about the gay people "agenda". It's rather cute. Reminds me of a small child trying to be subtle, which usually comes down to them making sure you're within earshot of them while they loudly "talk to themselves" about what they hope they get from you.

Mohican00;1616507 wrote:Why do you care?

I don't. I just enjoy pointing our hypocrisy and shredding PC cliche that ruin logical thought in society.

I Wear Pants;1616510 wrote:Wut.

The need for validation that their lifestyle is okay. A being that has more needs is inferior to someone who does not require those needs to be equal.

For example, as a straight man, I don't need validation that having sex with women is okay. I just go out and have sex with women. For gays, they need to tell others they are gay and have it validated by their friends, family, and any random stranger. The logic is simple and perfect; although not very PC.

sleeper;1616514 wrote:I don't. I just enjoy pointing our hypocrisy and shredding PC cliche that ruin logical thought in society.

Logical thought...brags about not using condoms.

Heretic;1616512 wrote:He cares more than the gay people about the gay people "agenda". It's rather cute. Reminds me of a small child trying to be subtle, which usually comes down to them making sure you're within earshot of them while they loudly "talk to themselves" about what they hope they get from you.

The gay agenda has ruined my sympathy for gay people and made me actively enjoy their misery for their abnormal and gross lifestyle.

I Wear Pants;1616516 wrote:Logical thought...brags about not using condoms.

Condoms are for poor people and gays.

sleeper;1616515 wrote:The need for validation that their lifestyle is okay. A being that has more needs is inferior to someone who does not require those needs to be equal.

For example, as a straight man, I don't need validation that having sex with women is okay. I just go out and have sex with women. For gays, they need to tell others they are gay and have it validated by their friends, family, and any random stranger. The logic is simple and perfect; although not very PC.

I don't think you know what logic means.

I Wear Pants;1616519 wrote:I don't think you know what logic means.

I understand what it means. You just do not like what the logic is telling you.

sleeper;1616514 wrote:I don't. I just enjoy pointing our hypocrisy and shredding PC cliche that ruin logical thought in society.

sleeper;1615540 wrote:I find abortion to be particularly disgusting.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?44466-Michael-Sams-kiss-on-TV&p=1615540&viewfull=1#post1615540

sleeper;1519111 wrote:which is why the only "charity" I donate to is Planned Parenthood because the world needs more women on the pill

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?42514-Walmart-EBT-Cards&p=1519111&viewfull=1#post1519111

sleeper;1616520 wrote:I understand what it means. You just do not like what the logic is telling you.

Your logic might work if you had correctly described why people have to come out. But you didn't so it's not logic but bullshit.

Besides for most people coming out isn't like an announcement or press release. It's just "So I have a boyfriend and he's coming to dinner on Friday". I fail to see how that's somehow seeking attention or validation. But at some point it makes sense to mention it because otherwise people tend to be confused. It generally isn't a big deal unless it's made into one. And despite you thinking people don't care there's still lots of people who get kicked out of their homes, disowned, lose friends or whatever when people find out they're gay. People obviously do care and having a conversation about it is helpful for a lot of people. This is probably exacerbated by the fact that a lot of people have probably only interacted with gay people via the media which isn't really an accurate portrayal of the average gay person but rather some caricature.

Mohican00;1616521 wrote:http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?44466-Michael-Sams-kiss-on-TV&p=1615540&viewfull=1#post1615540



http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?42514-Walmart-EBT-Cards&p=1519111&viewfull=1#post1519111

Not sure what hypocrisy exists here. My stance is we need more women taking birth control and PP provides that either free or at very low cost. The fact that a company also performs abortions is irrelevant to this conversation as the statements are mutually exclusive. Nice try though!

sleeper;1616523 wrote:Not sure what hypocrisy exists here. My stance is we need more women taking birth control and PP provides that either free or at very low cost. The fact that a company also performs abortions is irrelevant to this conversation as the statements are mutually exclusive. Nice try though!

You donate to an organization that performs abortions which....you find disgusting.

Mohican00;1616524 wrote:You donate to an organization that performs abortions which....you find disgusting.

I still find it disgusting. Do you find it hypocritical that I think gay men kissing is disgusting yet I support them being treated like everyone else? What community college taught you that? LOL

I Wear Pants;1616522 wrote:Your logic might work if you had correctly described why people have to come out. But you didn't so it's not logic but bullshit.

Besides for most people coming out isn't like an announcement or press release. It's just "So I have a boyfriend and he's coming to dinner on Friday". I fail to see how that's somehow seeking attention or validation. But at some point it makes sense to mention it because otherwise people tend to be confused. It generally isn't a big deal unless it's made into one. And despite you thinking people don't care there's still lots of people who get kicked out of their homes, disowned, lose friends or whatever when people find out they're gay. People obviously do care and having a conversation about it is helpful for a lot of people. This is probably exacerbated by the fact that a lot of people have probably only interacted with gay people via the media which isn't really an accurate portrayal of the average gay person but rather some caricature.

Maybe. If that's the case, why isn't the gay community condemning Michael Sam for making a big deal out of coming out? The gay community doesn't seem to be interested in marginalizing their sexual choices; they seem more interested in blasting it everywhere and trying to score sympathy points for those that don't accept(keyword) but tolerate their lifestyle.

sleeper;1616531 wrote:I still find it disgusting. Do you find it hypocritical that I think gay men kissing is disgusting yet I support them being treated like everyone else? What community college taught you that? LOL

You donate not just to an abortion provider but the abortion provider in the US.

Not sure what equal treatment and dudes kissing has anything to do with one another.

btw, we both have degrees from the same university.

Mohican00;1616536 wrote:You donate not just to an abortion provider but the abortion provider in the US.

Not sure what equal treatment and dudes kissing has anything to do with one another.

btw, we both have degrees from the same university.

That's cool. What year and what did you study?

Also, your logic remains terrible and a stretch at best. I don't want to argue abortion, birth control, and PP on this thread anymore but if you'd like to discuss it in another thread I'd be happy to ruthless shred your credibility to pieces.

sleeper;1616533 wrote:Maybe. If that's the case, why isn't the gay community condemning Michael Sam for making a big deal out of coming out? The gay community doesn't seem to be interested in marginalizing their sexual choices; they seem more interested in blasting it everywhere and trying to score sympathy points for those that don't accept(keyword) but tolerate their lifestyle.

Because he'll be the first gay dude in the NFL that doesn't feel like he has to hide his sexuality. People like him, Robbie Rogers, Collins, other athletes, and high profile people like Anderson Cooper (shocker) making it known that they're gay helps kids who are struggling with their identities or live in bad environments. If none of them were out and a kid was in a living situation that wasn't exactly friendly towards their sexuality it'd be easy to think that their parents or whoever are right and that being gay is bad and no one can "make it" if they're gay.

Hell you yourself brag on here about all the girls you supposedly sleep with but if a gay person did the same you'd be all "we get it you're gay no one cares".

sleeper;1616538 wrote:Also, your logic remains terrible and a stretch at best. I don't want to argue abortion, birth control, and PP on this thread anymore but if you'd like to discuss it in another thread I'd be happy to ruthless shred your credibility to pieces.

ahh, the old logic attack. Sleeper classic

All you have to do is say, yeah, I donate to PP which perform abortions and I'll be happy. What the fuck else is there to discuss?

I Wear Pants;1616542 wrote:Because he'll be the first gay dude in the NFL that doesn't feel like he has to hide his sexuality. People like him, Robbie Rogers, Collins, other athletes, and high profile people like Anderson Cooper (shocker) making it known that they're gay helps kids who are struggling with their identities or live in bad environments. If none of them were out and a kid was in a living situation that wasn't exactly friendly towards their sexuality it'd be easy to think that their parents or whoever are right and that being gay is bad and no one can "make it" if they're gay.

Hell you yourself brag on here about all the girls you supposedly sleep with but if a gay person did the same you'd be all "we get it you're gay no one cares".

For a gay man, you do make some valid and interesting points. Do you ever think there will be a day in America(the greatest country on the planet mind you) that being gay will be socially acceptable and 'coming out' will be irrelevant since it will be seen as normal?