Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 1, 2015 12:22am
Damn what a game. This win should be enough to get BYU in.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 1, 2015 12:24am
Wisconsin or Nova for the new 1 seed?
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 12:35am
Are you assuming both Duke and UNC can't get ones? Especially if they disregard the conference tournaments, I'd figure both of them HAVE to be on the 1-line now. Right now, it's Kentucky, Virginia, Duke and Arizona if I had to say. Zona isn't losing again.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 1, 2015 12:43am
I don't have Duke as a 1. And I don't see them
getting it without winning the ACCT.
getting it without winning the ACCT.
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 1, 2015 12:44am
Also, BYU is not in. It honestly shouldn't be close, but this will be a win that gets them more than they deserve. 3 horrible losses, 1 top 50 win and only 4 top 100 wins.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 12:49am
Will be hard to overlook Duke's fairly dominant win in Madison. Sure, more losses for Duke (3 to 2), but if they get to Sunday in the ACC Tourney and don't lose by then, they have to get it. Of course, this is all moot because chances are a few more teams lose.
Duke has 8 top 50 wins to Wisconsin's 6, including a head to head over them. Duke also has a higher overall SOS. Duke's 2 "bad" losses are Miami and NCSU, both are fringe NCAA teams. Wisconsin, despite not having Kaminsky, has an awful loss to Rutgers who is right there with Missouri for the worst high-major school.
Duke has 8 top 50 wins to Wisconsin's 6, including a head to head over them. Duke also has a higher overall SOS. Duke's 2 "bad" losses are Miami and NCSU, both are fringe NCAA teams. Wisconsin, despite not having Kaminsky, has an awful loss to Rutgers who is right there with Missouri for the worst high-major school.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 12:53am
Although neither will make the Final Four if Washington is in their bracket.
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birddog23
Posts: 1,086
Mar 1, 2015 8:34am
Just a reminder that the ACC tournament championship game is now on Saturday night this year. No longer Sunday afternoon.
And personally I don't care if Duke is a 1 or 2, just put them in the bracket with best potential matchups (bring on the Lehigh and Mercer jokes)
And personally I don't care if Duke is a 1 or 2, just put them in the bracket with best potential matchups (bring on the Lehigh and Mercer jokes)
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Mar 1, 2015 9:09am
My line of thinking is simply only 1 team from ACC gets a 1. Not that Duke can't/shouldn't, more that they won't. User Virginia beating them, and I see the committee looking at Duke as a team who has struggled mightily since they went to only 8 players.
I also see UNC beating them and I see them losing before the title game. They just haven't looked good at all recently. But, if they win the tournament, I will concede it will be tough to have them and Virginia not both in the top line.
I also see UNC beating them and I see them losing before the title game. They just haven't looked good at all recently. But, if they win the tournament, I will concede it will be tough to have them and Virginia not both in the top line.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Mar 1, 2015 9:43am
Yeah only way Duke gets 1 seed is to win the ACCT. I think both Duke and Virginia can get 1's if that does happen. Also I'm with Azu about who the #1 seeds currently are.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 10:36am
Thing is, outside of conference play, what has Nova done? OOC wins over Syracuse and VCU aren't even wins over NCAA Tourney teams (VCU is borderline). Their win over Michigan was top 25 at the time, but it's nothing now. Their only win over an NCAA team in the OOC was Temple, possibly VCU. I'm sorry, but that doesn't compare to a 3 or 4-loss Duke team, IMO.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 1, 2015 11:36am
Not a chance Nova gets a 1 seed due to their resume', like azu pointed out. They literally have zero good wins OOC and two iffy losses to bubble teams.
Biased question of the day...could Kansas sneak into that 1 seed if they win the big 12 tourney and no further losses? They do have the #1 SOS and last i saw they were ahead of Kentucky in RPI.
Biased question of the day...could Kansas sneak into that 1 seed if they win the big 12 tourney and no further losses? They do have the #1 SOS and last i saw they were ahead of Kentucky in RPI.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 12:10pm
UK jumped them, but I think KU needs to do what you said, AND need help. They need Arizona to lose again, and probably Wisconsin. If they got a #1, it would be out west, which wouldn't be awful drawing Zona or Gonzaga as the 2. Nova doesn't deserve a #1 now, but would be ahead of KU, and I don't see Nova losing again. They would probably get the Houston regional as Duke/Virginia would probably get the Syracuse regional.
Personally, I'd rather be a #2 in Houston if I'm KU than a #1 out west with Zona in my bracket. You can't say you would be upset if Nova or Duke got the Houston regional with KU. Those are teams KU can match-up with moreso than Zona or UK, IMO.
Personally, I'd rather be a #2 in Houston if I'm KU than a #1 out west with Zona in my bracket. You can't say you would be upset if Nova or Duke got the Houston regional with KU. Those are teams KU can match-up with moreso than Zona or UK, IMO.
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sportswizuhrd
Posts: 3,215
Mar 1, 2015 3:42pm
UNC a #1?Azubuike24;1709110 wrote:Are you assuming both Duke and UNC can't get ones? Especially if they disregard the conference tournaments, I'd figure both of them HAVE to be on the 1-line now. Right now, it's Kentucky, Virginia, Duke and Arizona if I had to say. Zona isn't losing again.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 1, 2015 7:56pm
Meant Virginia!
Azubuike24
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Mar 2, 2015 11:45am
http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2015/03/02/rasheed-sulaimon-center-sexual-assault-allegations-prior-dismissal
His talent must not have overcome these allegations...
His talent must not have overcome these allegations...
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 2, 2015 2:49pm
If there were no reports filed, I dont really think there's a story here.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Mar 2, 2015 4:31pm
If there is no story here why was Sulimon dismissed from the team?
reclegend22
Posts: 8,772
Mar 2, 2015 5:53pm
You do realize that you misquoted Krzyzewski the first time and have done so once again, right?Azubuike24;1709405 wrote:http://www.dukechronicle.com/articles/2015/03/02/rasheed-sulaimon-center-sexual-assault-allegations-prior-dismissal
His talent must not have overcome these allegations...
Coach K never made that comment that you keep referencing.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 2, 2015 10:15pm
Oklahoma spanking Iowa State. Could be 2 straight home losses for the Cyclones, and 3 straight overall.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 2, 2015 10:19pm
I know I misquoted him the first time, someone pointed it out. That doesn't mean people can't run with the headline.reclegend22;1709519 wrote:You do realize that you misquoted Krzyzewski the first time and have done so once again, right?
Coach K never made that comment that you keep referencing.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 2, 2015 10:26pm
Instant 17-0 run. That took about 3 minutes of game time.Mulva;1709556 wrote:Oklahoma spanking Iowa State. Could be 2 straight home losses for the Cyclones, and 3 straight overall.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
Mar 3, 2015 10:48pm
Georgia might take down Kentucky tonight.
Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Mar 3, 2015 11:18pm
UGA didn't close. Towns and Aaron Harrison made every clutch shot late.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 4, 2015 9:00pm
LSU smacked at home by Tennessee. Hurts them and, by extension, Texas A&M. No idea how the Aggies are considered a tournament team, honestly.
Pitt up 4 on Miami at half.
Purdue up 3 @ MSU.
Pitt up 4 on Miami at half.
Purdue up 3 @ MSU.