Kipers updated mock, is really the best scenario for the Browns, in terms of taking a QB.

1st-Texans Mack
2nd-Rams Robinson
3rd- Jaguars Clowney
4th- Browns Bortles
5th-Raiders Teddy
6th-Falcons Matthews
7-Bucs Watkins
8-Vikings Manziel
9- Bills Lewan
10-LionsEvans
11-Titans Barr
12-Giants Ebron
13 Rams Ha Ha
14 Bears Aaron Donald
15 Steelers Justin Gilbert
16 Cowboys Tim Jernigan
17 Ravens Crooks
18 Jets Beckham
19 Dolphins Zack Martin
20 Cardinals Dennard
21 Packers Mosley
22 Eagles Calvin Pryor
23 Chiefs Marqise Lee
24 Bengals- Shazier
25 chargers-Roby
26 Browns- Kelvin Benjamin
27 Saints-Dee Ford
28 Panthers Cyrus Kouandjio
29 Pats-Hageman
30 49ers Kyle Fuller
31 Broncos Chris Borland
32 Seahawks Stephon Tuitt

The underhanded flip versus Detroit is still the dumbest play I have ever seen.

Best play he made was kicking the ball out of the endsone for the safety.

Marky Kay tweets that Tate is in Cleveland. Maybe for real this time

bases_loaded;1590115 wrote:Marky Kay tweets that Tate is in Cleveland. Maybe for real this time

Doubt it, it is MKC.

Midstate01;1590092 wrote:Damnit!

PM me your email address. I'll copy and paste the column and email it to ya


I appreciate and admire your desire to say "I told ya so" to your buddy.

I'm just copied your post and tweeted it to him.

But thank you. It felt good to shut him up. I love when their are numbers to back it up.

HighRoller74;1590101 wrote:Kipers updated mock, is really the best scenario for the Browns, in terms of taking a QB.

1st-Texans Mack
2nd-Rams Robinson
3rd- Jaguars Clowney
4th- Browns Bortles
5th-Raiders Teddy
6th-Falcons Matthews
7-Bucs Watkins
8-Vikings Manziel
9- Bills Lewan
10-LionsEvans
11-Titans Barr
12-Giants Ebron
13 Rams Ha Ha
14 Bears Aaron Donald
15 Steelers Justin Gilbert
16 Cowboys Tim Jernigan
17 Ravens Crooks
18 Jets Beckham
19 Dolphins Zack Martin
20 Cardinals Dennard
21 Packers Mosley
22 Eagles Calvin Pryor
23 Chiefs Marqise Lee
24 Bengals- Shazier
25 chargers-Roby
26 Browns- Kelvin Benjamin
27 Saints-Dee Ford
28 Panthers Cyrus Kouandjio
29 Pats-Hageman
30 49ers Kyle Fuller
31 Broncos Chris Borland
32 Seahawks Stephon Tuitt

Would love that scenario.

Me too. Not necessarily the pick, but if they are in love with one of the top QB's he would be available, and wouldn't need to trade around.

se-alum;1590122 wrote:Would love that scenario.

Would rather get another WR or wait and get one in the second. Give me yankey there instead of Benjamin.

Commander of Awesome;1590203 wrote:Would rather get another WR or wait and get one in the second. Give me yankey there instead of Benjamin.

Yea, I didn't really look at that, just the scenario of the first 4 picks.

Any chance the Browns go after Hakeem Nicks or Chris Johnson?

I haven't heard any connections, but Johnson said he'd take a paycut to be traded, and Nicks was really really good a few years ago (horrble last year).

Commander of Awesome;1590203 wrote:Would rather get another WR or wait and get one in the second. Give me yankey there instead of Benjamin.

I've admittedly seen little of Benjamin. Bascially only the championship and whatever highlights on ESPN. I like his size, but people say hes got the dropsies. Is he another Greg Little or Braylon Edwards?

ZWICK 4 PREZ;1590262 wrote:Is he another Greg Little or Braylon Edwards?

Hard to say. Little is in a class of his own because he learned the position on the fly in college after converting from running back. Not excusing his drops, but it would probably look worse if a real receiver was that bad.

I guess it depends on if you think reducing drops is teachable. I don't think it is. Look at Calvin Johnson, dude has a ton of drops despite being the best WR in football.

lhslep134;1590291 wrote:I guess it depends on if you think reducing drops is teachable

It most certainly is teachable, but if a player is having ongoing drop issues at the professional level of his career then it becomes a headgame which really isn't something you can coach

I don't know much about Benjamin but saw he was a big boy. Really wish they would have went after Decker he would have been a perfect number 2. Hell Nicks would work too if he could stay healthy. That way we could go QB at 4 then either Oline safety LB CB with pick 26

Watkins tweeted this.

I am trying to be patient with Farmer right now, but for God sakes can we do something to address some of the holes this team had?

Our 2 big FA acquisitions have been at spots that were not a real problem last year. Basically just a trade of DQJ & Ward for Whitnet and Dansby. Slight upgrades at both, but neither do anything to address an offense which was borderline unwatchable for much of last year.

We are sitting on the 2nd most cap room in the league, start using it. Don't let Tate leave without a contract. Find some real NFL caliber guards. Find a 2nd CB.

These are things that need to be done.

Waiting until the draft and hoping that 4-5th round picks will fill these holes is just a recipe for another 6-10 season and further swirling around the drain.

For the love of God what does it take to get someone with a sense of urgency into this town?

Denver goes to the SB bowl last year and can't add guys fast enough. We are coming off like 6 10+ loss seasons in a row and we are still in the slow and steady mode. It just defies logic.

Lol. You have no idea who or what Farmer has tried to do. It's not like most guys are excited to come play for Cleveland. Sure, money talks, but most of your top guys already have money and want to play on winning teams. You don't know whether or not Farmer has attempted to address other issues or not.

IggyPride00;1590491 wrote:I am trying to be patient with Farmer right now, but for God sakes can we do something to address some of the holes this team had?

Our 2 big FA acquisitions have been at spots that were not a real problem last year. Basically just a trade of DQJ & Ward for Whitnet and Dansby. Slight upgrades at both, but neither do anything to address an offense which was borderline unwatchable for much of last year.

We are sitting on the 2nd most cap room in the league, start using it. Don't let Tate leave without a contract. Find some real NFL caliber guards. Find a 2nd CB.

These are things that need to be done.

Waiting until the draft and hoping that 4-5th round picks will fill these holes is just a recipe for another 6-10 season and further swirling around the drain.

For the love of God what does it take to get someone with a sense of urgency into this town?

Denver goes to the SB bowl last year and can't add guys fast enough. We are coming off like 6 10+ loss seasons in a row and we are still in the slow and steady mode. It just defies logic.

you are such a downer.

Oh yay, iggy is back.

ohiobucks1;1590500 wrote:you are such a downer.

Browns could win the Super Bowl on a last secord FG and he would bitch that they didnt win by a bigger margin.

thavoice;1590506 wrote:Browns could win the Super Bowl on a last secord FG and he would bitch that they didnt win by a bigger margin.

He would find a way to cut himself over banner.

Iggy please. Both signings were upgrades to the positions we lost and better value. Free agency isn't over and we still have the draft. Shut the fuck up and take a xanax