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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 7, 2013 9:47am
Guys like Butkus with the mental toughness he brought to the game (if in the same era with equal nutrition and training) would tear thru mental midgets like Incognito like hot knife thu your weak little arms.Me?;1531086 wrote:Actually, I do. They'd be bigger, faster and strong. But they didn't have it back then, you can't just arbitrarily take that away from players today, it's a variable. So your argument is quite literally retarded.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 9:49am
LOL you can bring all the mental toughness in the world...but when you weren't getting through much slower, 270 pound linemen on every single play, you'd get your ass handed to you basically every time by someone much bigger, stronger and faster.Tiernan;1531092 wrote:Guys like Butkus with the mental toughness he brought to the game (if in the same era with equal nutrition and training) would tear thru mental midgets like Incognito like hot knife thu your weak little arms.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 9:51am
Mental toughness doesn't mean shit in a physical battle of pushing and shoving.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 9:56am
No, actually....yours is. If you are going to "time warp" a Deion Sanders to the present, you have to give him the same advantages as today's players as well as you'd have to take away all of the advantages Megatron has if you took him back in time.Me?;1531086 wrote:Actually, I do. They'd be bigger, faster and strong. But they didn't have it back then, you can't just arbitrarily take that away from players today, it's a variable. So your argument is quite literally retarded.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 10:05am
Uhh..nope, not really. Because what I know is what those players are/were with what they had. What I don't know is what those players would have been without certain things. I can only operate on what I know. This is precisely why these arguments are retarded in the first place. We're literally arguing nothing. And you're an idiot anyways, because you think LeBron is roided.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 10:06am
LOL...looks like sleeper has an alter.
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Tiernan
Posts: 13,021
Nov 7, 2013 10:20am
There is no Fkn way LBJ is not roided you moron.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 10:41am
LOL
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2013 10:41am
I like how in order for these players of old times past to be even considered as a bench warmer status requires the training, nutrition level, etc. of the average joe of today's game. Thanks for arguing for my position that the players of today are 100000000x better than the trash of yesteryear.BR1986FB;1531019 wrote:No big "ifs." Give Jim Brown the same nutrition, weight training, drugs, etc that today's players have and he'll dominate. He'd be even bigger, strong & faster than he was back then. Just like if you take away your boy Lebron's nutrition, training, DRUGS (and yes, I do think he's roided), etc he's on a level playing field back in Jordan's day. He'd be better than most but he wouldn't be the dominant force he is today. Give Jordan today's advantages that Lebron has and their skill levels wouldn't even be close. (wasn't my intent to turn this into a hoops discussion)
You can't make these bling "assumptions" that today's players would be dominant back in previous times because they wouldn't have the same technology, etc that makes them great today.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 10:44am
Re-read the post. I did no such thing. Lebron in Jordan's era is no "megastar" without his gadgets.sleeper;1531163 wrote:I like how in order for these players of old times past to be even considered as a bench warmer status requires the training, nutrition level, etc. of the average joe of today's game. Thanks for arguing for my position that the players of today are 100000000x better than the trash of yesteryear.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 10:46am
LOL you're quite literally the stupidest person I've come across in quite some time. Definitely on this site thus far.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2013 10:49am
LOL. BR is mad that his sports heros of yesteryear are now irrelevant. Lebron is better than Jordan, Hell Shaq is better than Jordan. Jordan would be like the KD of today's game, good but still second best.BR1986FB;1531167 wrote:Re-read the post. I did no such thing. Lebron in Jordan's era is no "megastar" without his gadgets.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Nov 7, 2013 10:51am
I think ME? is SQ.
Me?
Posts: 547
Nov 7, 2013 10:55am
WTF is SQ, someone else said this yesterday. I don't get it.like_that;1531175 wrote:I think ME? is SQ.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 10:56am
Obviously you don't look in a mirror often. Your reputation has already preceded you with some of the stupidity you've been spewing.Me?;1531171 wrote:LOL you're quite literally the stupidest person I've come across in quite some time. Definitely on this site thus far.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 10:57am
Oh, so he's THAT little bitch. This should be fun!like_that;1531175 wrote:I think ME? is SQ.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 7, 2013 10:58am
Just weighing in....I don't think LeBron is "roided." Just a physical freak... like Megatron, Pryor, etc.
But I could be wrong..."roided" is a broad term with the advances in medicine these days.
But I could be wrong..."roided" is a broad term with the advances in medicine these days.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Nov 7, 2013 10:58am
Jordan is far from my "hero." Hated his guts. He was a Cavs "killer" but still the greatest to play the game.sleeper;1531174 wrote:LOL. BR is mad that his sports heros of yesteryear are now irrelevant. Lebron is better than Jordan, Hell Shaq is better than Jordan. Jordan would be like the KD of today's game, good but still second best.
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Nate
Posts: 3,949
Nov 7, 2013 11:13am
Megatron would beat Sanders 8 out of 10 times.
Lebron without the "training", etc. would still be a top 3 player in Jordan's era, if not the best.
Lebron without the "training", etc. would still be a top 3 player in Jordan's era, if not the best.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 7, 2013 11:42am
Although I think Jordan is ten times the player LeBron is, no way do I think LeBron is roided. He is an athletic freak
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2013 11:53am
You put Pryor in the same sentence as Megatron and Lebron???????????????Automatik;1531185 wrote:Just weighing in....I don't think LeBron is "roided." Just a physical freak... like Megatron, Pryor, etc.
But I could be wrong..."roided" is a broad term with the advances in medicine these days.
What?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2013 11:54am
Based on what? Lebron is going to shatter all of Jordan's records and is the only player in NBA history that can guard all 5 positions. Jordan is overrated.BR1986FB;1531186 wrote:Jordan is far from my "hero." Hated his guts. He was a Cavs "killer" but still the greatest to play the game.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Nov 7, 2013 12:08pm
Yeah, in terms of being a natural "physical freak" they are similar....and that's where the comparison ends.sleeper;1531234 wrote:You put Pryor in the same sentence as Megatron and Lebron???????????????
What?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Nov 7, 2013 12:24pm
agreed. Big, strong and fast....skill wise, not so muchAutomatik;1531246 wrote:Yeah, in terms of being a natural "physical freak" they are similar....and that's where the comparison ends.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Nov 7, 2013 1:15pm
Fixed.wes_mantooth;1531255 wrote:agreed. Black....skill wise, not so much