DeadliestWarrior34;1248929 wrote:^^ Crossfit is a scam by having people pay large amounts of money for stupid workouts that would get you laughed out of most gyms. I'm not at a computer, but later I'll post a vid of people trying to lift at a crossfit gym.
CrossFit has it's good things and it's bad things. Probably the worst thing is that large amount of the instructors are just downright awful and not knowledgeable. This comes from Cross Fit's licensing/certification process wherein you basically just pay for the cert. Needs to be much more difficult to get one so that they cultivate better and more qualified trainers.Azubuike24;1249162 wrote:CrossFit kicks ass. Anyone dissing it has never done it. It's not a substitute for other things, to each his own, but for the guy who said it would "get you laughed out of most gyms" is probably one of those at those "gyms" who wouldn't be able to handle most aspects of CrossFit.
The best thing about it? It's variability. Anyone can incorporate the concept on their own, tailor it to their preferences and see benefit. It can be done outside. At home. At a gym. Anywhere there is some space. Outside of some standard equipment and time, you don't have to pay a dime.
Sonofanump;1249212 wrote:That dude looks misproportioned.
The certification and licensing is hit or miss. You can pay to use the name CrossFit and draw people in with that alone. Doesn't mean the programming is any good or the instructors know what the hell they are doing. Many of them are there because they like doing CrossFit themselves and are clueless on how to coach someone. As others have said, proceed with caution before just signing up at a local CrossFit affiliate.I Wear Pants;1249284 wrote:CrossFit has it's good things and it's bad things. Probably the worst thing is that large amount of the instructors are just downright awful and not knowledgeable. This comes from Cross Fit's licensing/certification process wherein you basically just pay for the cert. Needs to be much more difficult to get one so that they cultivate better and more qualified trainers.
As for the exercises it's also sort of hit or miss and a lot of that is because of the trainers. There's great things about it but at the same time always doing like 50 reps of an exercise or some other high volume number is not going to be the most effective way to build strength or fitness. Sometimes that's the appropriate exercise but not always and many Cross Fit gyms and Cross Fit-ers seem to thing higher reps= always better.
That said, it's certainly not going to be bad for someone like Justin who's just trying to up his fitness level. Especially at the beginning. Sure he'd see gains with just about any program because his level is much lower to begin with but if he's going to stick with this one because he likes it or feels invested in it then that's a reasonable course of action.
Good lord. That's hilarious.DeadliestWarrior34;1249309 wrote:I'm assuming most crossfit gyms don't look like this but this video always brings the lulz.
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Hasn't really been my experience. Though you're right that many personal trainers at other gyms are also terrible. But that's likely because they have a certification which is too easily attained. That's why if I'm looking for a personal trainer they're going to at least have an ACSM cert.Azubuike24;1249312 wrote:The certification and licensing is hit or miss. You can pay to use the name CrossFit and draw people in with that alone. Doesn't mean the programming is any good or the instructors know what the hell they are doing. Many of them are there because they like doing CrossFit themselves and are clueless on how to coach someone. As others have said, proceed with caution before just signing up at a local CrossFit affiliate.
On the positive though, I've found that the trainers/coaches in this scene are far more educated on lifestyle and nutritional aspects. Most conventional gyms do more harm than good in these areas. This is one trend that is a GOOD thing. Fitness, health, lifestyle and nutrition go together. Often times, they all crumble if one of the aspects fails. You're much more likely to find a certified counselor or coach in these areas at a CrossFit gym than other places. Instead of one "expert" trying to do it all, they often refer to other resources instead of pretending to have all the answers. It's sort of like a Doctor referring out to another specialist, even if that means losing some business, instead of pretending to have all the solutions at his office.
Going further, as I said earlier, CrossFit can be incorporated by each person, at least the mechanism/idea, in-home or as a solo venture. You don't need a gym. You don't need a membership. Many of the benefits can be seen with some basic equipment and a home gym.
Oh wow, that's awful.DeadliestWarrior34;1249309 wrote:I'm assuming most crossfit gyms don't look like this but this video always brings the lulz.
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derek bomar;1249317 wrote:I watched the first 17 seconds of that video and stopped. This isn't what my gym is like. You wouldn't even be allowed to workout there if you looked like that. We stress form as much as anything.
But, go ahead and presume to know wtf you're talking about. It's cool.
You saying justin is weak?!I Wear Pants;1249284 wrote:That said, it's certainly not going to be bad for someone like Justin who's just trying to up his fitness level. Especially at the beginning. Sure he'd see gains with just about any program because his level is much lower to begin with but if he's going to stick with this one because he likes it or feels invested in it then that's a reasonable course of action.
i felt bad for the 3 legged dog, not just for having 3 legs, but for having to witness that.DeadliestWarrior34;1249309 wrote:I'm assuming most crossfit gyms don't look like this but this video always brings the lulz.
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First, I don't pay $200 a month. Not even close. 2nd, my shoulders are fine, tyvm. Actually getting a lot stronger, thanks in part to crossfit. 3rd, you're an idiot.DeadliestWarrior34;1249356 wrote:
I said before I posted that that I was assuming thats not what most gyms look like. Herpa derpa derp. But please do explain to me how paying $200 a month for a circuit training workout and shoulder problems is worth it.
I'm just re-quoting this for fun. You say that the workouts would get you laughed out of most gyms? So, doing lunges, squats, deadlifts, pullups, cleans and running will get you laughed out of most gyms? Ok. And it's a scam? Usually how scams work is that you pay for something you thought you were getting, but it turns out you don't get the service/good... the workouts (if done properly and you put effort into them, like all workouts) deliver. You're just throwing out bullshit and claiming it as fact, which is annoying.DeadliestWarrior34;1248929 wrote:^^ Crossfit is a scam by having people pay large amounts of money for stupid workouts that would get you laughed out of most gyms. I'm not at a computer, but later I'll post a vid of people trying to lift at a crossfit gym.
derek bomar;1250112 wrote:I'm just re-quoting this for fun. You say that the workouts would get you laughed out of most gyms? So, doing lunges, squats, deadlifts, pullups, cleans and running will get you laughed out of most gyms? Ok. And it's a scam? Usually how scams work is that you pay for something you thought you were getting, but it turns out you don't get the service/good... the workouts (if done properly and you put effort into them, like all workouts) deliver. You're just throwing out bullshit and claiming it as fact, which is annoying.
Not a scam but a lot of the gyms are just shit (same can be said for "normal" gyms as well). The thing is a lot of Cross Fit people I see talk about doing like 5 x 30 reps of things and that's really not a good way to build strength. Sure you'll get stronger and fitter, especially if you're just starting out or if you haven't been training a lot, but you might not be maximizing your gains or potential. Which is fine if you're okay with it, but there's just a lot of silliness that goes along with Cross Fit because of their shitty licensing program.derek bomar;1250112 wrote:I'm just re-quoting this for fun. You say that the workouts would get you laughed out of most gyms? So, doing lunges, squats, deadlifts, pullups, cleans and running will get you laughed out of most gyms? Ok. And it's a scam? Usually how scams work is that you pay for something you thought you were getting, but it turns out you don't get the service/good... the workouts (if done properly and you put effort into them, like all workouts) deliver. You're just throwing out bullshit and claiming it as fact, which is annoying.
I hope that's a real bench. If so, that's awesome.like_that;1250118 wrote:
In the end, isn't that what counts? There is no perfect diet/exercise regimen. It's all about what you put into it. The workouts are tough. I'm going to assume you've never done them, but if you went to my gym I guarantee you you'd 1) see that form is stressed 2) sweat your ass off and 3) walk around sore as fuck the next day, as I currently amI Wear Pants;1250139 wrote:Not a scam but a lot of the gyms are just shit (same can be said for "normal" gyms as well). The thing is a lot of Cross Fit people I see talk about doing like 5 x 30 reps of things and that's really not a good way to build strength. Sure you'll get stronger and fitter, especially if you're just starting out or if you haven't been training a lot, but you might not be maximizing your gains or potential. Which is fine if you're okay with it, but there's just a lot of silliness that goes along with Cross Fit because of their shitty licensing program.
Not exactly an indicator that a workout was well designed/effective.derek bomar;1250150 wrote:In the end, isn't that what counts? There is no perfect diet/exercise regimen. It's all about what you put into it. The workouts are tough. I'm going to assume you've never done them, but if you went to my gym I guarantee you you'd 1) see that form is stressed 2) sweat your ass off and 3) walk around sore as fuck the next day, as I currently am
