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Aug 19, 2012 1:07 PM
derek bomar;1250150 wrote:In the end, isn't that what counts? There is no perfect diet/exercise regimen. It's all about what you put into it. The workouts are tough. I'm going to assume you've never done them, but if you went to my gym I guarantee you you'd 1) see that form is stressed 2) sweat your ass off and 3) walk around sore as fuck the next day, as I currently am
$200/month to sweat your ass off and be sore the next day is a rip off. Give me $1 and a pack of gum and I could teach you how to do that for life in 5 minutes.
Aug 19, 2012 1:07pm
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Aug 19, 2012 5:36 PM
sleeper;1250163 wrote:$200/month to sweat your ass off and be sore the next day is a rip off. Give me $1 and a pack of gum and I could teach you how to do that for life in 5 minutes.
It just goes back to anything else. Some sort of product, routine, idea, etc...to take advantage of the naive. One difference with CrossFit, is when used properly, it IS very effective. There are many things out there than take advantage of the naive that can be used perfectly and won't work.

Bottom line...there is no quick fix in any capacity. There are many ways to manipulate things to get the lowest effective does for the best output, but I've found people sign up for something like CrossFit without any experience and expect to walk into the gym and leave shredded. Many establishments will gladly take that person's money, which is a shame.
Aug 19, 2012 5:36pm
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Aug 19, 2012 6:26 PM
Azubuike24;1250281 wrote:It just goes back to anything else. Some sort of product, routine, idea, etc...to take advantage of the naive. One difference with CrossFit, is when used properly, it IS very effective. There are many things out there than take advantage of the naive that can be used perfectly and won't work.

Bottom line...there is no quick fix in any capacity. There are many ways to manipulate things to get the lowest effective does for the best output, but I've found people sign up for something like CrossFit without any experience and expect to walk into the gym and leave shredded. Many establishments will gladly take that person's money, which is a shame.
I think CrossFit is effective. I think it's a shame people pay that kind of money when they could google "CrossFit" and learn everything they need to know for free. In fact, it's fraud, but the masses will eat it up.
Aug 19, 2012 6:26pm
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Aug 19, 2012 8:55 PM
sleeper;1250315 wrote:I think CrossFit is effective. I think it's a shame people pay that kind of money when they could google "CrossFit" and learn everything they need to know for free. In fact, it's fraud, but the masses will eat it up.
Some people like to work out in groups, and some of the motivation comes from the fact that you see someone next to you doing something hard/fast, so you want to do it harder/faster. So in a sense, I don't believe everyone could do crossfit by themselves. Some people could, but not everyone.
Aug 19, 2012 8:55pm
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Aug 19, 2012 8:58 PM
I Wear Pants;1250162 wrote:Not exactly an indicator that a workout was well designed/effective.

I have done the workouts and they are tough. But not everything that's hard makes sense scientifically.

And your gym may stress form (we'll assume correctly for the sake of the discussion) and that's wonderful but you can't deny that there's a bunch of Cross Fit places that don't. Cross Fit is massively inconsistent and has a lot of terrible trainers/instructors. If you've found a gym with good ones who are knowledgeable on form in regards to lifts (particularly Olympic) then you've definitely found something that's likely very worthwhile to continue going to.

When you see people "attack" Cross Fit they probably aren't talking about your gym or places like your gym if it is how you say it is. Because no one who knows anything would attack a place that properly teaches lifting form and does excellent high intensity circuit workouts (something Cross Fit definitely can do when taught well).
I don't deny there are gyms that don't stress it and are probably rip offs. I am arguing that CrossFit (and by extension the workouts themselves) is not a SCAM, as claimed by Deadliest Warrior.
Aug 19, 2012 8:58pm
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Aug 19, 2012 9:08 PM
derek bomar;1250375 wrote:Some people like to work out in groups, and some of the motivation comes from the fact that you see someone next to you doing something hard/fast, so you want to do it harder/faster. So in a sense, I don't believe everyone could do crossfit by themselves. Some people could, but not everyone.
Yeah and some people are poor and stupid, your point?
Aug 19, 2012 9:08pm
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Aug 19, 2012 9:20 PM
There's definitely a cult mentality to it. When I have to listen to people talk about it in person I generally want to kill them all in about 5 minutes.
Aug 19, 2012 9:20pm
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Aug 19, 2012 9:26 PM
ts1227;1250398 wrote:There's definitely a cult mentality to it. When I have to listen to people talk about it in person I generally want to kill them all in about 5 minutes.
And you just described to a T how I feel about vegetarians and Apple users.
Aug 19, 2012 9:26pm