http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/04/dhs-to-grant-illegal-aliens-unlawful-presence-waivers/

Let's see....The DHS thinks it's OK for illegals to break our laws just as long as they can "prove" they have at least one relative who is a U.S. citizen. BUT legal citizens can be groped, harassed, humiliated and irradiated at will by TSA agents in our airports "just in case" they might be terrorists.

More total BS from the Bammer Fiasco.

November can't get here soon enough.

^^^^ Who needs Congressional approval when votes are at stake?!! This POTUS shows us more and more why he believes there are no checks and balances and he is our king and ruler supreme.

Yeah, yet on the other hand, the adminsitration rounded up over 3,100 illegals the past few days:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/six-day-nationwide-sweep-leads-to-arrest-of-more-than-3100-criminal-aliens-and-fugitives/2012/04/02/gIQAmi9zqS_story.html

ptown_trojans_1;1135951 wrote:Yeah, yet on the other hand, the adminsitration rounded up over 3,100 illegals the past few days:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/six-day-nationwide-sweep-leads-to-arrest-of-more-than-3100-criminal-aliens-and-fugitives/2012/04/02/gIQAmi9zqS_story.html

Should I be impressed?

It's their fucking job to do that

ptown_trojans_1;1135951 wrote:Yeah, yet on the other hand, the adminsitration rounded up over 3,100 illegals the past few days...

You mean all 3,100 of them? Let's see...divide 3,100 by 11,500,000....hmmmm. That means Barry only has 99.973% more to go.

No wait...what am I thinking? That really means that Barry can lay claim to "doing something to fix the tide of illegal immigration" and then he can grant amnesty to the rest so they can all become good law-abiding Democrats.

3,100 was probably just the illegal domestics a few of the Washington bureacrats had.

But let's not diminish one of the few thing Barry has actually been able to accomplish!

gut;1136364 wrote:3,100 was probably just the illegal domestics a few of the Washington bureacrats had.

But let's not diminish one of the few thing Barry has actually been able to accomplish!

Aw yes...Beltway Illegals. High-profile and politically dangerous.

Strawberry picking season is just ahead in Ohio. Maybe the DC bureaucrats can temporarily lend their cheap labor to some Ohio berry farmers in exchange for some subsidies and a couple of wink, winks?

believer;1136368 wrote:Aw yes...Beltway Illegals. High-profile and politically dangerous.

Strawberry picking season is just ahead in Ohio. Maybe the DC bureaucrats can temporarily lend their cheap labor to some Ohio berry farmers in exchange for some subsidies and a couple of wink, winks?

Free market, right!? Isn't that the capitalist way??? If you can find cheaper labor, hire it! Consider what half of our businesses already do with China and India!?!?!?!?!

This isn't like it's some new problem under Obama, this has been a problem for much longer than he has been in office. Please find something a little more relevant to Obama if you are going to post your anti-Obama rhetoric. We get it, you don't like him.

And for the record I did not and will never vote for Obama.

I'm infinitely more worried about DHS than I am some illegal immigrants.

NSA Spy Center
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

DHS Purchases 450 Millions .40 Caliber Hollow Point Ammo
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/atk-secures-40-caliber-ammunition-contract-with-department-of-homeland-security-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-2012-03-12?reflink=MW_news_stmp

After Huge Ammo Buy, DHS Purchases Bullet Resistant Booths
http://www.infowars.com/after-huge-ammo-buy-dhs-purchases-bullet-resistant-booths/

cruiser_96;1136386 wrote:Free market, right!? Isn't that the capitalist way??? If you can find cheaper labor, hire it! Consider what half of our businesses already do with China and India!?!?!?!?!

Agreed. However, cheap labor has to be legal labor from this country. The problem is, most Americans can make more money by not working than they can actually working. We can only blame our victim and entitlement mentality for that one.

Roofing season in Ohio and you can gather 3100 illegal on one job site. :laugh:

Cleveland Buck;1139995 wrote:I'm infinitely more worried about DHS than I am some illegal immigrants.

NSA Spy Center
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

DHS Purchases 450 Millions .40 Caliber Hollow Point Ammo
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/atk-secures-40-caliber-ammunition-contract-with-department-of-homeland-security-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement-dhs-ice-2012-03-12?reflink=MW_news_stmp

After Huge Ammo Buy, DHS Purchases Bullet Resistant Booths
http://www.infowars.com/after-huge-ammo-buy-dhs-purchases-bullet-resistant-booths/

The Constitution grants only narrow criminal powers to the federal government, the rest are left to the states and local governments. Yet look how far the feds have come. The DHS has really accelerated it. Definitely a lot of stranges things going on in the DHS. Like the Federal Protective Service. Federal law enforcement has resisted using the term "Police" on these national agencies. Not the DHS. Trust me words mean things. The "po" in Gestapo is an abreviation for polizei. The police. The Federal Protection Service will morph into our own national po-po.

The Federal Protective Service patch:


And they are well equipped:

It is no longer a crime for the Federal Government murdering a suspected bad guy. No arrest needed....nor a trial. Thank you prez.

Be careful what web sites you visit...especially anti war sites. The Tokyo Rose types will be the first ones to conveniently disappear. Just ask private Manning.

Didn't Stalin do this type of thing?

Illegal Immigration from Mexico has hit "net zero"

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0408/Home-again-in-Mexico-Illegal-immigration-hits-net-zero

BoatShoes;1140776 wrote:Illegal Immigration from Mexico has hit "net zero"

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2012/0408/Home-again-in-Mexico-Illegal-immigration-hits-net-zero

Give credit where credit is due. Obama has effectively stopped the flow of illegal immigrants and he did it without a wall.

He only had to wreck the economy to the point that it was no longer more prosperous than staying in Mexico.

majorspark;1140196 wrote:The Constitution grants only narrow criminal powers to the federal government, the rest are left to the states and local governments. Yet look how far the feds have come. The DHS has really accelerated it. Definitely a lot of stranges things going on in the DHS. Like the Federal Protective Service. Federal law enforcement has resisted using the term "Police" on these national agencies. Not the DHS. Trust me words mean things. The "po" in Gestapo is an abreviation for polizei. The police. The Federal Protection Service will morph into our own national po-po.

The Federal Protective Service patch:


And they are well equipped:

Strange that no Republican Attorneys General have filed a brief in federal court I dare say!

BoatShoes;1141085 wrote:Strange that no Republican Attorneys General have filed a brief in federal court I dare say!

The DHS was Bush's brainchild.

majorspark;1141115 wrote:The DHS was Bush's brainchild.

Exactly my point mon frere...

majorspark;1141115 wrote:The DHS was Bush's brainchild.

Yep and I didn't like it then either.

believer;1141167 wrote:Yep and I didn't like it then either.

There is a big difference between murmuring "I don't like that very much" on the ride home from work while you listen to the news and filing in federal court because you have a principled belief in the Constitution. Not a single republican member of the bar did as much and it doesn't, and hasn't, seemed to bother any of my conservative friends who are so passionate about the sanctity of the Constitution.

I get that you're not a liberal. But, don't you see why this might be frustrating in the eyes of a silly liberal?

President creates the DHS when there is no police power granted to the feds in the plain language of the constitution or in its original intent. Nary a peep is raised about it by Republicans. Then, new president passes Republican ideas to solve healthcare under commerce power....Every Republican Attorney General claims its unconstitutional.

It is not too late to attempt to repeal the DHS you know.

majorspark;1141115 wrote:The DHS was Bush's brainchild.

Sort of. He was in support of a more a National Security Council position sort of like an adviser. But, it was the 9/11 Commission and then Congress that really pushed Bush to form DHS.

DHS is a mess. It's a mishmash of many different agencies and cultures.
It has a role though. At its core, DHS should the the middle man between federal and state/ local law enforcement and first responses in responses to a disaster. It should be the main coordinator for the feds and state and local, that provides intelligence and knowledge to first responders.

Also, it should be the main immigration agency. Other than that, it should be cut down. It does not need the Coast Guard, and other random agencies.

BoatShoes;1141189 wrote:There is a big difference between murmuring "I don't like that very much" on the ride home from work while you listen to the news and filing in federal court because you have a principled belief in the Constitution. Not a single republican member of the bar did as much and it doesn't, and hasn't, seemed to bother any of my conservative friends who are so passionate about the sanctity of the Constitution.

Believer and I are not attorneys so our response would not be filing our briefs in federal court. Murmuring to myself and to associates is definitely how it was for me. Not much else one could do at the time. Post 9/11 you can understand the political difficulty standing up against something called "homeland security". You had a token few dems vote against it in the Senate and trust me it was not because they believed it did not meet constitutional muster. In the house you had a principled vote against with Ron Paul and maybe half a dozen republicans and a few democrats.

BoatShoes;1141189 wrote:I get that you're not a liberal. But, don't you see why this might be frustrating in the eyes of a silly liberal?.

Imagine the frustration us silly conservatives have when the leaders of the political party we believe identifies with our beliefs of small and limited goverment takes part in authoring its expansion.

BoatShoes;1141189 wrote:President creates the DHS when there is no police power granted to the feds in the plain language of the constitution or in its original intent. Nary a peep is raised about it by Republicans. Then, new president passes Republican ideas to solve healthcare under commerce power....Every Republican Attorney General claims its unconstitutional.

Welcome to the world of politics. Its different than the world of principles. Glad to see you are getting on board with original intent, but I get your point. You know this stinker would fall under the power of congress to provide for the "common defense". Just like the social stinkers fall under the power of congress to provide for the "general welfare". You know what I believe. That they are not separate powers but qualifying terms for the enumerated powers that follow. I will continue to stand against both unconstitutional misinterpretations.

BoatShoes;1141189 wrote:It is not too late to attempt to repeal the DHS you know.

As Reagan said "the nearest thing we will ever see to eternal life on this earth is a government program". Whether its born of "common defense" or "general welfare" its going to be around for awhile.

Bush's DHS was just another implementation of shovel ready jobs....with the invoices to be sent out 50 years from now.

majorspark;1141427 wrote:Imagine the frustration us silly conservatives have when the leaders of the political party we believe identifies with our beliefs of small and limited goverment takes part in authoring its expansion.

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