2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Feb 29, 2012 12:05pm
Commander of Awesome;1100332 wrote:29th February, 2012 - 6:24 amNFL.com - The Dolphins, who have the eighth overall pick, aren't too motivated to trade up to No. 2 and select quarterback Robert Griffin III.

A team source told The South Florida Sun-Sentinel that the Rams are asking for a bundle of picks equivalent to the value of the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/26136/20120229/dolphins_find_cost_for_no_2_pick_too_high/#ixzz1nn735YEX

I think this is where Flynn ends up.
Or Tannehill. Remember that Sherman is the OC.
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Feb 29, 2012 12:26pm
then all we need is kyle orton, jason campbell, or peyton manning to go to washington and then all the leverage is in our hands for RGIII and st louis can suck it and say put at 2.
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Feb 29, 2012 12:45pm
if we give up more than the 2 firsts I am going to be very sad.
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Feb 29, 2012 12:51pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth

good read. check it out!

and for all you saying that you can get a qb in the later rounds, check this out, and i quote "In fact, six of the past seven Super Bowl winners started quarterbacks that they selected in the first round."
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Feb 29, 2012 1:19pm
The film doesn't lie....RG3 makes throws in games that Colt McCoy, Matt Flynn, and Ryan Tannehill simply cannot.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:26pm
I don't know if Tannehill can't or not, I've read that he has one of the strongest arms in this draft.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:27pm
Commander of Awesome;1100445 wrote:I don't know if Tannehill can't or not, I've read that he has one of the strongest arms in this draft.

But does he have the accuracy to complement it? Derek Anderson has one of the strongest arms in football...
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Feb 29, 2012 1:29pm
Y-Town Steelhound;1100449 wrote:But does he have the accuracy to complement it? Derek Anderson has one of the strongest arms in football...
That's my fear of Tannehill. I've heard him referred to as "Derek Anderson Part 2" on several occasions. Whether that's fair or not, who knows?
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Feb 29, 2012 1:46pm
Y-Town Steelhound;1100432 wrote:The film doesn't lie....RG3 makes throws in games that Colt McCoy , Matt Flynn, and Ryan Tannehill simply cannot.
1. you're comparing college film versus NFL film. if you want to compare the college films of McCoy and Griffin, McCoy was every bit, if not more, accurate.

2. Both Griffin and Tannehill came from the B12. Worst passing defensive conference in the country this year, and has been terrible for years.
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Feb 29, 2012 1:54pm
lhslep134;1100499 wrote:1. you're comparing college film versus NFL film. if you want to compare the college films of McCoy and Griffin, McCoy was every bit, if not more, accurate.

2. Both Griffin and Tannehill came from the B12. Worst passing defensive conference in the country this year, and has been terrible for years.
honest question, because nobody immediately comes to mind and I'm too lazy to look, but is there even an above average QB in the league from the Big 12? Seems they are all products of the system (playing against horrid pass D).
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Feb 29, 2012 2:34pm
Pick6;1100515 wrote:honest question, because nobody immediately comes to mind and I'm too lazy to look, but is there even an above average QB in the league from the Big 12? Seems they are all products of the system (playing against horrid pass D).
There are 9 QB's from the Big 12 on NFL rosters. 6 of them are or have started multiple games in the NFL. IMO the best right now is Josh Freeman or Sam Bradford and Vince Young has had moments.
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Feb 29, 2012 2:35pm
Josina Anderson ‏ @ JosinaAnderson
A source tells me that Browns RB Peyton Hillis and agent Kennard McGuire have parted ways, and adds the split was amicable.
Retweeted by Daryl Ruiter



LOL
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Feb 29, 2012 2:38pm
its like he thinks a new agent will finally get the Browns to give him that magic 7 yr $100 mil contract
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Feb 29, 2012 2:41pm
Pick6;1100515 wrote:honest question, because nobody immediately comes to mind and I'm too lazy to look, but is there even an above average QB in the league from the Big 12? Seems they are all products of the system (playing against horrid pass D).

If you consider injury prone Sam Bradford above average, then only 1
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Feb 29, 2012 2:41pm
What's funny is that he changes agents more than most people change their underwear.
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Feb 29, 2012 2:43pm
Wouldn't it be hilarious if his new agent was Bob LaMonte?
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Feb 29, 2012 2:52pm
BR1986FB;1100647 wrote:What's funny is that he changes agents more than most people change their underwear.
More agents last season than TDs.
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Feb 29, 2012 3:04pm
lhslep134;1100646 wrote:If you consider injury prone Sam Bradford above average, then only 1
I dont think Bradford has done enough to make a case for him being above average, so I'll go 0.
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Feb 29, 2012 3:09pm
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43196/no-decision-browns-must-trade-up-for-rg3


"McCoy won't lead a team to a championship, and it wouldn't matter if his top receiver was Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. He can't throw an accurate deep ball in a league where passing downfield is essential. McCoy is a limited quarterback, whereas RG3 offers limitless potential."
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Feb 29, 2012 3:15pm
Skyhook79;1100741 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43196/no-decision-browns-must-trade-up-for-rg3


"McCoy won't lead a team to a championship, and it wouldn't matter if his top receiver was Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. He can't throw an accurate deep ball in a league where passing downfield is essential. McCoy is a limited quarterback, whereas RG3 offers limitless potential."
Sounds familiar...
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Feb 29, 2012 3:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1100687 wrote:More agents last season than TDs.
I'm wondering if he felt he thought his agent was selling him short and thought he could get MORE money? If Hillis REALLY wanted a deal done and to stay here all he has to say is "get a deal done, NOW" and it's over. I believe Mr Hillis wants more $$$ than his agent was able to get.
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Feb 29, 2012 4:05pm
BR1986FB;1100749 wrote:Sounds familiar...
Yeah sounds like 88 of your last 100 posts
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Feb 29, 2012 5:12pm
SportsAndLady;1100824 wrote:Yeah sounds like 88 of your last 100 posts
well its true
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Feb 29, 2012 5:44pm
shook_17;1100902 wrote:well its true
A prediction for the future is true? Link?
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Feb 29, 2012 5:51pm
Skyhook79;1100741 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43196/no-decision-browns-must-trade-up-for-rg3


"McCoy won't lead a team to a championship, and it wouldn't matter if his top receiver was Calvin Johnson or Larry Fitzgerald. He can't throw an accurate deep ball in a league where passing downfield is essential. McCoy is a limited quarterback, whereas RG3 offers limitless potential."
One man's opinion...let's not annoint RGIII as the GOAT just yet. Lest we remember the following "can't misses" as well.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/359559-top-20-quarterback-busts#/articles/359559-top-20-quarterback-busts