Archive 2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 10:41am

se-alum;1101852 wrote:Mike Wallace will not be franchised by the Steelers.

They'll tender him with a 1st rounder. I could see someone like New England, San Francisco or Cincinnati going after him. Would he be worth giving up a later 1st rounder for? I'd think so.

Commander of Awesome

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Mar 1, 2012 10:45am

SportsAndLady;1101845 wrote:Are they rock bottom, BR? Or are they ROCK BOTTOM?

You need to get a job again. Get ya out of the house.

SportsAndLady

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Mar 1, 2012 10:49am

Commander of Awesome;1101865 wrote:You need to get a job again. Get ya out of the house.

Got one, thanks though.

Also lost about 8 pounds. Thanks again.

Commander of Awesome

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Mar 1, 2012 10:53am

#Raiders : Kamerion Wimbley-LB : #Raiders to cut LB Wimbley if new deal isn’t reached

Hope a new deal isn't reached. Come home Kam.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 10:54am

Commander of Awesome;1101874 wrote:#Raiders : Kamerion Wimbley-LB : #Raiders to cut LB Wimbley if new deal isn’t reached

Hope a new deal isn't reached. Come home Kam.

This would be funny as I still have his jersey hanging in my closet.

like_that

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Mar 1, 2012 11:19am

BR1986FB;1101858 wrote:They'll tender him with a 1st rounder. I could see someone like New England, San Francisco or Cincinnati going after him. Would he be worth giving up a later 1st rounder for? I'd think so.

If you are a team in contention, then definitely yes.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 11:24am

WTF? Considering retiring to join the CIA? Hillis is totally flaking out...if this isn't his agent throwing this out there to hurt his stock.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633501/cleveland-browns-use-tag-rb-peyton-hillis-source-says

DeyDurkie5

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Mar 1, 2012 12:01pm

BR1986FB;1101665 wrote:For all of those saying "if RG3 busts it will set the franchise back" (bullshit because they are already ROCK BOTTOM), I say that "staying the course with McCoy" will, in their terminology, "set the franchise back at least 2 years." Reason being, you surround McCoy with weapons, he inevitably shows he's not "the guy" which leaves you drafting

This is all your opinion/speculation, as you don't know if mccoy will do good or not with weapons. It's not fair to say "mccoy won't do good with weapons" and then say "rg3 with weapons would be an upgrade over mccoy"..one's been in the nfl 2 years, the other just graduated and played in one of the weakest pass defense leagues in college.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 12:03pm

BR1986FB;1101642 wrote: Have to be able to anticipate and throw into windows. Also have to lead receivers, in stride, on a deep ball, not make them sit and wait.

Kellen Moore is awesome at that. I don't know if that means he'll be successful, given his lack of elite arm strength, but just saying, he's probably the most accurate passer in this year's draft class.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 12:06pm

BR1986FB;1101858 wrote:They'll tender him with a 1st rounder. I could see someone like New England, San Francisco or Cincinnati going after him. Would he be worth giving up a later 1st rounder for? I'd think so.

Would he be worth giving up our 22nd for? I mean if you're talking about drafting Kendall Wright or signing Mike Wallace, give me the proven commodity.

derek bomar

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Mar 1, 2012 12:07pm

BR1986FB;1101908 wrote:WTF? Considering retiring to join the CIA? Hillis is totally flaking out...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7633501/cleveland-browns-use-tag-rb-peyton-hillis-source-says

wow

like_that

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Mar 1, 2012 12:08pm

lhslep134;1101954 wrote:Would he be worth giving up our 22nd for? I mean if you're talking about drafting Kendall Wright or signing Mike Wallace, give me the proven commodity.

No, he is going to be really expensive, and fuck the Steelers. Don't give them a first rounder.

Commander of Awesome

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Mar 1, 2012 12:13pm

Wallace also disappeared last season which is a bit worrying. I hope they sign him and fuck their cap.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 12:16pm

lhslep134;1101954 wrote:Would he be worth giving up our 22nd for? I mean if you're talking about drafting Kendall Wright or signing Mike Wallace, give me the proven commodity.

That would be all fine & good if it was the #22 but by league rules you have to give up your own original pick, meaning #4.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 12:17pm

DeyDurkie5;1101947 wrote:This is all your opinion/speculation, as you don't know if mccoy will do good or not with weapons. It's not fair to say "mccoy won't do good with weapons" and then say "rg3 with weapons would be an upgrade over mccoy"..one's been in the nfl 2 years, the other just graduated and played in one of the weakest pass defense leagues in college.

You just want McCoy to succeed so you get a steak dinner. :laugh:

DeyDurkie5

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Mar 1, 2012 12:21pm

BR1986FB;1101981 wrote:You just want McCoy to succeed so you get a steak dinner. :laugh:

LOL

I just want a quarterback to succeed so we can stop having these convos every year. If the front office thinks RG3 is the qb, then do it. I trust heckertt enough to not question his tactics. I'm just not as hard on mccoy as you are I guess. I like the idea of having multiple first round picks just as much as I do getting RG3. So really, I don't care the direction we go, as long as we dont draft an offensive linemen.

but yes, the steak dinner will be delicious:laugh:

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 12:21pm

BR1986FB;1101979 wrote:That would be all fine & good if it was the #22 but by league rules you have to give up your own original pick, meaning #4.

Ah then no way in hell. I wasn't sure what the rule was.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 12:22pm

DeyDurkie5;1101947 wrote: the other just graduated and played in one of the weakest pass defense leagues in college.

In fairness, so did McCoy.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 12:25pm

lhslep134;1101992 wrote:Ah then no way in hell. I wasn't sure what the rule was.

That would be double jeopardy..1) you'd be giving up the #4 pick and 2) and even worse, you'd be giving it to the Steelers.

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Sonofanump

Mar 1, 2012 12:48pm

Count Kiper said that LM James might be a high second rounder and Burfect might fall to the third.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 1:28pm

I would take Burfict in the 3rd if he fell to us. I like his ridiculous (in a bad way) mean streak, but then again I would get so irritated every time he got flagged.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 1:30pm

Sonofanump;1102043 wrote:Count Kiper

Never heard that before, that's funny

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BR1986FB

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Mar 1, 2012 1:40pm

lhslep134;1101949 wrote:Kellen Moore is awesome at that. I don't know if that means he'll be successful, given his lack of elite arm strength, but just saying, he's probably the most accurate passer in this year's draft class.

That's the whole preface of the WCO. You lead a receiver/throw to an area/anticipate so they get it in stride. That's where you always hear about YAC in the WCO.

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 1:42pm

Just hearing ESPN describe how ridiculous Hillis has been acting (firing 3 agents, CIA) makes me want to just say good riddance and let's snag 2 running backs in this draft. One that's more of a bruiser (Chris Polk, hell I wouldn't mind Dan Herron late) and one that's a speedback (Isaiah Pead, Chris Rainey?)

lhslep134

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Mar 1, 2012 1:42pm

BR1986FB;1102107 wrote:That's the whole preface of the WCO. You lead a receiver/throw to an area/anticipate so they get it in stride. That's where you always hear about YAC in the WCO.

I wouldn't be against taking Kellen Moore late.