2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Footwedge
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Jun 8, 2012 11:30pm
hoops23;1193657 wrote:Your crush on me is cute. The use of a similar word in the wrong context is a common grammatical mistake. The brain is a complex organ, but sometimes common simplicities escape it. You see this from time to time when people, who know the correct meaning of words such as "Their, they're, and there" use them in the wrong context.

For someone such as yourself to talk about anybody's grammar is pure hilarity. It's also hilarious that you continue to thread stalk me.

As for your post, you had no reason to use ellipsis. You also used an improper word with "get em."

Hope this helps.
LOL. A perfect example of one who loves to dish it....but can't take it coming back. Wah, wah, wah. At least you didn't blame it on the iphone this time.
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Jun 9, 2012 1:07am
Footwedge;1193726 wrote:LOL. A perfect example of one who loves to dish it....but can't take it coming back. Wah, wah, wah. At least you didn't blame it on the iphone this time.
Why do you love me so much, footwedge? I'm just glad you're not crying to a mod again after you initiated the conversation.

Now, stop derailing the Browns thread.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 9, 2012 7:51am
hoops23;1193776 wrote: Now, stop derailing the Browns thread.
Exactly !
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Jun 10, 2012 6:56pm
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2012 7:10pm
grodt;1194667 wrote:
I call photoshopped.....



Too small to be a female Steeler fan. :laugh:
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BR1986FB
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Jun 10, 2012 7:46pm
Good read with a few Browns tidbits thrown in there....

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3737.html
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BR1986FB
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Jun 11, 2012 7:36am
Last week of OTA's and then nothing until training camp....
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Jun 11, 2012 7:47am
I found this quite amusing when watching the 6 oclock news the other day in San Antonio and I get 2 minutes+ dedicated the Browns QB battle.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 11, 2012 7:53am
OneBuckeye;1195162 wrote:I found this quite amusing when watching the 6 oclock news the other day in San Antonio and I get 2 minutes+ dedicated the Browns QB battle.
Those Texans love them some Colt McCoy (along with other former Texas collegiate players).
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Jun 11, 2012 1:03pm
Leigh Bodden visits Hells Kitchen, lol.

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BR1986FB
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Jun 11, 2012 6:59pm
Sounds like the contract for T-Rich is close...

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/06/11/browns-rb-trent-richardson-contract-almost-done/#.T9ZqvUKFX4o.twitter

Nate Ulrich ‏ @
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# Browns QB Brandon
Weeden vows to sign rookie contract before training camp: http://******/LWxarA. # NFL
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BR1986FB
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Jun 12, 2012 5:13am
Be nice if they used SOME of this money....

[h=1]Projecting 2013 cap room for AFC North[/h]June, 11, 2012Jun 11
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By Jamison Hensley | ESPN.com Three AFC North teams are in great salary-cap position for the 2013 season, according to ESPN's John Clayton.

The Cincinnati Bengals and the Cleveland Browns currently rank in the top three in terms of most cap room for next season. Clayton reports that the Bengals have $42 million and the Browns have $40 million. Only the Indianapolis Colts ($43 million) have more than those two AFC North teams.

The Bengals, though, will need that space to fill some holes on the team. Right tackle Andre Smith, kicker Mike Nugent and all three starting linebackers (Rey Maualuga, Thomas Howard and Manny Lawson) will be unrestricted free agents in 2013.

The Baltimore Ravens rank eighth with $15 million of cap space. Of course, the Ravens could use more considering quarterback Joe Flacco, running back Ray Rice and safety Ed Reed will be free agents. Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti expressed optimism last week that the team will sign Flacco and Rice to new deals.

The only division team that doesn't have space is the Pittsburgh Steelers, who are a projected $10 million over the 2013 cap. Their focus next offseason will be their wide receivers. The Steelers will need room to put the franchise tag on Mike Wallace if they can't sign him to a long-term deal and a first-round tender on Antonio Brown, who will be a restricted free agent next year.


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/49464/projecting-2013-cap-room-for-afc-north
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Jun 12, 2012 8:32am
Nice to see the Steeler's in cap trouble next season, but the team that will be scary is Cincy, already competing at the top of the division and could make a huge splash in FA if they wanted to.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:42am
jmog;1196324 wrote:Nice to see the Steeler's in cap trouble next season, but the team that will be scary is Cincy, already competing at the top of the division and could make a huge splash in FA if they wanted to.
I think that there's going to be a swing with Cincy being one of the division leaders. I'm not really sold on Andy Dalton but they have done well for themselves in recent drafts. Very young and talented.

Seems like Steelers are in cap Hell every year but restructure a few contracts or cut some player who has hit the wall (too old) to get under. Their main concern, I'd think, is that guys like Polamalu, Harrison, Hampton, etc will be done soon. Harrison & Hampton are replaceable but game changers like Polamalu don't grow on trees.

If Heckert plays his cards right and uses SOME of that money on free agents, this team can take a huge leap. I'm sure some of that $40 mill will be allocated for Haden & Phil Dawson, who has changed his tune and supposedly now wants to retire a Brown. The youth coming together along with these financial resources are key reasons why I think this team will be a playoff contender in 2013.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:45am
Steelers in Cap Hell is always a good thing. I agree with you BR, Dalton had a DA in 2007 season IMO. He really tappered off at the end of the season. I know Matt Williamson on NFL Today podcast isn't sold on him at all.

Also Joe Flacco's woobie, aka Derek Mason retired today. About time, he really declined in the last 2 or 3 seasons but he was solid for the Ravens.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:46am
You forget the Bengals have Mike Brown...he won't buy.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:49am
Commander of Awesome;1196336 wrote:Steelers in Cap Hell is always a good thing. I agree with you BR, Dalton had a DA in 2007 season IMO. He really tappered off at the end of the season. I know Matt Williamson on NFL Today podcast isn't sold on him at all.

Also Joe Flacco's woobie, aka Derek Mason retired today. About time, he really declined in the last 2 or 3 seasons but he was solid for the Ravens.
I was a little surprised, but not stunned, that Mason retired a Rat.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:50am
SportsAndLady;1196341 wrote:You forget the Bengals have Mike Brown...he won't buy.
Isn't 2013 the year the cap "floor" kicks in? If so, he'll have to spend on something or get penalized.
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Jun 12, 2012 8:52am
BR1986FB;1196344 wrote:Isn't 2013 the year the cap "floor" kicks in? If so, he'll have to spend on something or get penalized.
He'll take the penalty lol
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Jun 12, 2012 9:00am
SportsAndLady;1196349 wrote:He'll take the penalty lol
Wouldn't surprise me. After he let Palmer sit and got lucky in that trade to the Raiders, nothing would be shocking with that guy.
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Jun 12, 2012 9:01am
BR1986FB;1196353 wrote:Wouldn't surprise me. After he let Palmer sit and got lucky in that trade to the Raiders, nothing would be shocking with that guy.
He will spend, but it wouldn't surprise me if he spends on the wrong player.
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Jun 12, 2012 1:50pm
Tweets from OTA's...

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Looks like Phil Dawson went home after minicamp - don't see a No. 4 on the field

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN This is the last of the OTAs open to the media; # Browns wrap them up on Friday and will be done until Training Camp

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN TE Ben Watson trots out onto the field for practice

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN No surprise - Weeden got 1st 1st team reps in team work

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Seneca Wallace just threw a beautiful 40 yard strike to T Benjamin in stride

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Travis Benjamin having some issues fielding punts

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge TJ Ward nearly picks off Weeden in 1s vs 1s on a deep slant. Great jump in the route by Ward # Browns

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge Scott Paxson, who is filling in for Phil Taylor, tips Weedens pass in the air and picks it off as the defense erupts into cheers # Browns

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge As u read the tweets remember the defense is always ahead of offense at this point because they know the routes by now. D does look good too

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge Coach Pat Shurmur said they are going to have a meeting this afternoon 2 discuss available players they can bring into training camp # Browns

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge When asked if anything has happened that would make him think he won't be the starting QB Brandon Weeden said "Not Yet" # Browns

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Weeden says he doesn't feel like a starter yet; Shurmur said he ha idea who starter and backup will be but not saying yet

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Weeden said QB situation "will take care of itself"

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns HC Pat Shurmur said practice was a little sloppy today.

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns HC Pat Shurmur said players who are back from last year have much better understanding of what coaches want to get done system wise.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns hc Shurmur said it's still possible that all three qbs will stick around: Weeden, McCoy and Wallace.

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns HC Pat Shurmur said he has an idea of how QB situation will shake out, including who backup will be.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns hc Shurmur said backup qb needs to be able to function without many reps during week. Mobility is a plus. Experience too.

DawgPress Network ‏ @ DawgPressNet CB Skrine getting extra work with first team http://dlvr.it/1jKS6J # Browns

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns hc Shurmur said he gets sense Seneca Wallace would be fine with no. 3 role if it works out that way.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns hc pat Shurmur said he favors keeping 3 qbs.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns hc Shurmur said te Jordan cameron has made one of the biggest jumps since last year.

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns QB Brandon Weeden said getting a lot of reps w/ ones has helped him, but becoming starter is not set in stone till it's official.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns rookie wr Travis Benjamin said Weeden throws the ball harder than he's used to.


Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Seneca Wallace says QB situation "for the guys upstairs to figure out"

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Wallace admitted he'd not be thrilled if he's the 3rd QB also might be tough to see all 3 remain

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge Seneca Wallace said he doesnt think the team will carry all 3 QBs into the season. Said once u have your guy, you have to give him the team

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge Seneca Wallace said he would not be ok with being the 3rd string QB # Browns

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Jun 12, 2012 1:50pm
Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns qb Seneca Wallace "im a realistic. They drafted Brandon Weeden in the first round for a reason."

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns qb Seneca wallace said there's "probably not" room for Weeden, McCoy and Wallace on team.

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns qb Seneca Wallace said he wouldnt want to be the browns no. 3 qb. Said not sure if he'd ask for a trade.

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns QB Seneca Wallace said he knows the ropes & knows the system well enough to play at anytime. "They know what I bring to the table."

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge Say what u want about Seneca Wallace but he speaks EXACTLY what is on his mind.

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN Colt to the podium next


Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN McCoy says he and the team have gotten better; working on things we can't see http://pic.twitter.com/dmRsx5gf

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns QB Colt McCoy said "I can only control what I can control" when asked if he feels like he's in a fair competition w/ Weeden.

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN McCoy on if he's 2 or 3 QB "my mind is that I'm the starter; that's the only way I look at it"

Will Burge ‏ @ WillBurge McCoy said "I understand we are trying to get Brandon (Weeden) ready" when asked if there is more pressure when he gets his limited resp

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN McCoy "I know there's plenty of room for improvement; each day is an opportunity to get better"

Nate Ulrich ‏ @ NateUlrichABJ # Browns QB Colt McCoy said "I have not gone there in my mind" when asked how he would react if he becomes No. 2 or No. 3 QB.

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN McCoy "My mindset is to come out and play; with each rep I expect to get better"

Daryl Ruiter ‏ @ RuiterWrongFAN McCoy dodges ? About asking for trade or release if he isn't starter

Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @ MaryKayCabot # browns qb McCoy. asked if he'll seek a trade, said his mind is on otas.
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Jun 12, 2012 2:00pm
PK Dawson wants to end career with Browns by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
PK Phil Dawson has again declined to attend voluntary OTAs. He has, however, expressed his desire to remain with the Browns for the rest of his career after accepting the franchise tag for the second straight year.

Rookie Benjamin's speed could be difference maker by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
Rookie Travis Benjamin is easily the fastest and quickest WR on the team. He has consistently beaten his teammates to the spot on seven-step routes in drills. The Browns would love for him to emerge as an immediate and badly needed major contributor.

QB Weeden struggles early in first day of minicamp by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
QB Brandon Weeden struggled in the opening series of team drills. His first pass downfield was off-target and knocked away by SS T.J. Ward. Weeden's next pass was batted down at the line by DT Scott Paxson, who continues to work with the first team as injured Phil Taylor's replacement.

Wallace outperforms McCoy and Weeden by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
It's curious that Seneca Wallace has received a significantly higher number of snaps than Colt McCoy. If Wallace earns backup status, McCoy will likely be traded or released. Wallace has outperformed McCoy and starter Brandon Weeden throughout Tuesday.

CB Skrine getting extra work with first team by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
Second-year CB Buster Skrine, who impressed in limited duty last season, is receiving extensive work with the first team. Skrine could play often in the nickel if he continues to progress.

Wallace not interested in being a third QB by Scott Purks, CBSSports.com
Seneca Wallace said he wouldn't be comfortable as the third QB behind Brandon Weeden and Colt McCoy minutes after coach Pat Shurmur said all three could remain on the roster. "You guys know that the third quarterback doesn't dress on Sundays," Wallace said.

QB Wallace: It's just a matter of time before QB Weeden starts by Marty Gitlin, CBSSports.com
QB Seneca Wallace said there are "a lot of other factors" involved when asked if performance alone will dictate the starter and backup at his position. "There can be a competition, but at the end of the day we know who's going to start at some point," Wallace said, referring to rookie Brandon Weeden.



@ ScottPetrak: # Browns Shurmur on Weeden: I see the process every day of learning. It's very rare you see a mistake repeated.