shook_17;1191313 wrote:i voted for COA, BR, and Like_that and durk, everybody else can suck it. :thumbup:

go to hell... I mean that in the nicest way possible tho

Also, loved this quote by Ward..

There are no excuses this year. Last year, we came out with a few losses and if we would’ve hit this or would’ve done that, we would’ve won. One play away, it’s all good; it’s all fine-and-dandy, but at the end of the day, we still got the ‘L.’ It’s time to stop all of the excuses and just win.

hoops23;1191465 wrote:go to hell... I mean that in the nicest way possible tho

I lost by 1 vote (3 of of his votes were not legit).

I hope that makes you happy.

hoops23;1191467 wrote:Also, loved this quote by Ward..

Good quote.

The fact that your lost to 1 beast is a joke.

For those that haven't listened to Pluto's podcast from Tuesday, it was pretty good. He talked about Bernard and how he thinks he's going to be a difference maker this season. Lets just say I hope so, like Alex Hall from a couple of years ago, I've been hearing how he's going to be an elite pass rusher etc... Time to see it.

I mentioned earlier that I think Bernard is going to have a chip on his shoulder. He's cut weight (down to 260), which is what this staff likes from their DE's (Sheard is 255 lbs), and should be much more explosive. They should have a nice little rotation at DE. It's the DT's that I'm a tad concerned about. Let's just hope that Winn & Hughes step up.

well, shit....like_that lost to 1beast? god damn choker...smh

Commander of Awesome;1191544 wrote:The fact that your lost to 1 beast is a joke.

For those that haven't listened to Pluto's podcast from Tuesday, it was pretty good. He talked about Bernard and how he thinks he's going to be a difference maker this season. Lets just say I hope so, like Alex Hall from a couple of years ago, I've been hearing how he's going to be an elite pass rusher etc... Time to see it.

BR1986FB;1191547 wrote:I mentioned earlier that I think Bernard is going to have a chip on his shoulder. He's cut weight (down to 260), which is what this staff likes from their DE's (Sheard is 255 lbs), and should be much more explosive. They should have a nice little rotation at DE. It's the DT's that I'm a tad concerned about. Let's just hope that Winn & Hughes step up.

I was thinking he will have a good year. Hopefully he is one of those surprises for us.

wes_mantooth;1191549 wrote:well, shit....like_that lost to 1beast? god damn choker...smh

Can't do much when you go against all of the HS forum, and some Cleveland posters let me down by voting for beast or not voting at all, but yes I lost in typical Cleveland fashion (protest tending). I will keep my talents as a Cleveland fan though.

Potentially HUGE news out of Philly...

Mary Kay Cabot‏@MaryKayCabotHoward Eskin of Philly radio WIP is on right now with @BullandFox. He said he was told by NFL source Browns and Rams may be for sale.


If this guy who was the former president of the Eagles wants them, he can come up with the $1 billion plus asking price Lerner would command.

ehhh. i don't know how i feel about that.

BR1986FB;1192242 wrote:Potentially HUGE news out of Philly...

Mary Kay Cabot‏@MaryKayCabotHoward Eskin of Philly radio WIP is on right now with @BullandFox. He said he was told by NFL source Browns and Rams may be for sale.


If this guy who was the former president of the Eagles wants them, he can come up with the $1 billion plus asking price Lerner would command.

shook_17;1192265 wrote:ehhh. i don't know how i feel about that.

If it doesn't mean moving the team, I am all for it.

like_that;1191564 wrote:I was thinking he will have a good year. Hopefully he is one of those surprises for us.



Can't do much when you go against all of the HS forum, and some Cleveland posters let me down by voting for beast or not voting at all, but yes I lost in typical Cleveland fashion (protest tending). I will keep my talents as a Cleveland fan though.

I want you to know you let me down first. I thought we had each others backs only to find out you voted for Durkie.

You had plenty of time to give me a chance to respond, but you made it time stamped and I had no way of vouching for myself. We've been through several battles together against trolling douchebags and it was all for not.

I have not and will not vote for anybody seeing as I was not in the contest SMH

BR1986FB;1192242 wrote:Potentially HUGE news out of Philly...

Mary Kay Cabot‏@MaryKayCabotHoward Eskin of Philly radio WIP is on right now with @BullandFox. He said he was told by NFL source Browns and Rams may be for sale.


If this guy who was the former president of the Eagles wants them, he can come up with the $1 billion plus asking price Lerner would command.

Why couldn't it be the tribe

like_that;1192281 wrote:If it doesn't mean moving the team, I am all for it.

This would be my biggest concern because the other two teams (Buffalo & St Louis) would likely be relocated. The one possible thing the Browns might have in their corner against relocation would be Heckert & Shurmur's Philly ties.

hoops23;1192295 wrote:I want you to know you let me down first. I thought we had each others backs only to find out you voted for Durkie.

You had plenty of time to give me a chance to respond, but you made it time stamped and I had no way of vouching for myself. We've been through several battles together against trolling douchebags and it was all for not.

True, but it was the only way I could be fair (coin flip wouldn't because you two wouldn't see it). I could have abstained, but then you 2 wouldn't vote for me. I am done being bitter about it. I will remain a good ally and battle the trolls with you once again!

BR1986FB;1192330 wrote:This would be my biggest concern because the other two teams (Buffalo & St Louis) would likely be relocated. The one possible thing the Browns might have in their corner against relocation would be Heckert & Shurmur's Philly ties.

It's always scary to think of, but I highly doubt it would happen. Lerner wouldn't sell the team if he knew they were going to be moved, and honestly I don't think the NFL would allow it.

Talked to a buddy today that said this report has already been confirmed false. Lets hope so.

“The Cleveland Browns are not for sale.”
That’s the statement from club spokesman Neal Gulkis, who was forced to react to a rumor Tweeted out of Philadelphia that the Browns were one of three NFL teams possibly up for sale.
Howard Eskin of 94 WIP in Philadelphia said in his Tweet that ex-Eagles President Joe Banner was seeking to form a group to pursue buying an NFL team. Eskin reported the Buffalo Bills were at the top of Banner’s list, but a source told him the Browns and St. Louis Rams could be for sale, too.
Gulkis did not attribute the club’s official statement to owner Randy Lerner.
Lerner attended Browns minicamp practice on Wednesday, but was not seen by reporters on Thursday.
The Browns were purchased as an expansion franchise in 1998 by Al Lerner for a then-NFL record $530 million. Former San Francisco 49ers executive Carmen Policy joined Lerner in a partnership of two and reportedly received 10 percent equity in the franchise. Policy cashed out in 2004 for a reported $50 million and currently lives in Yountville, Calif., where he built a winery.
When Lerner died of brain cancer on Oct. 2, 2002, ownership was passed on to Lerner’s wife, Norma, and children, Randy and Nancy. Randy is listed as the owner on the team’s official staff directory.
Since 2003, the Browns have posted a record of 47-97, including eight double-digit loss seasons in nine years, and have had four head coaches, three general managers and three presidents. Despite the rocky times, the Lerner family has shown no inclination to sell the club.
Until he was fired in 2010, Browns Hall of Famer Jim Brown was an executive advisor to Lerner. In a recent interview, Brown said he didn’t think the family would sell.
“You’ve got to understand the father was a dedicated human being, a great man,” Brown said. “I think he loved the Browns, obviously. And I think that would probably be one reason the family would not sell.
“Al was a helluva man and always a part of the Browns in the right way – a silent owner that never tried to step out. He did a lot of good things for a lot of people. So he’s the best of all of that. And if he were alive, things would be popping some kind of way.”

http://cle.scout.com/2/1192972.html

This would be great to see significant improvement in Pinkston...

http://news-herald.com/articles/2012/06/07/sports/nh5583301.txt?viewmode=fullstory

"Starting LG Jason Pinkston on his experience at the LeCharles Bentley O-Line Academy: 'It was real good weightlifting training and conditioning. I feel a lot stronger.' Pinkston, who is up to 322 pounds from his 2011 playing weight of 315, has also focused on taking a healthier approach nutritionally."

BR1986FB;1192895 wrote:http://cle.scout.com/2/1192972.html

I'm glad to see touchdown followed by pass even if it is practice.

I haven't listened to the Cleveland radio lately? Hooley, Rizzo, Fox etc have any interesting comments on minicamp?

OneBuckeye;1193018 wrote:I'm glad to see touchdown followed by pass even if it is practice.

I haven't listened to the Cleveland radio lately? Hooley, Rizzo, Fox etc have any interesting comments on minicamp?

Sorry...been listening to NFL Radio on XM for the most part. Unfortunately, I had to suffer through listening to the Steelers GM on Kirwin's show on the drive home yesterday.

hoops23;1192295 wrote:I want you to know you let me down first. I thought we had each others backs only to find out you voted for Durkie.

You had plenty of time to give me a chance to respond, but you made it time stamped and I had no way of vouching for myself. We've been through several battles together against trolling douchebags and it was all for not.

Naught*

Your grammar blows...just sayin. So sorry that one of you butt buds apparently has let you down. Don't worry, tomorrow's another day. Get em then, Tiger.

Dick Jauron shares vision for Browns’ defense, believes it’s in ‘a much better position’ this year By Nate Ulrich
Beacon Journal sports writer
Published: June 7, 2012 - 11:20 PM | Updated: June 8, 2012 - 07:49 AM
Cleveland Browns defensive coordinator Dick Jauron watches an off-season practice at the team's headquarters in Berea on Thursday. (AP Photo/Mark Duncan)
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Dick Jauron shares vision for Browns’ defense, believes it’s in ‘a much better position’ this yearJune 08,2012 11:49 AM GMTNate UlrichBeacon Journal Publishing Co. Copyright � 2012 Beacon Journal Publishing Co. Inc and Black Press. All Rights Reserved. Any copying, redistribution or retransmission of any of the contents of this service without the express written consent of the Akron Beacon Journal is expressly prohibited.BEREA: In his first season as the Browns’ defensive coordinator, Dick Jauron orchestrated a respectable transition to his 4-3 scheme despite the NFL lockout wiping out virtually the entire offseason.

The defense certainly wasn’t perfect last year after Jauron succeeded Rob Ryan and spearheaded a conversion from the Browns’ old 3-4 system, but it showed promise. Jauron’s men struggled against the run (ranked 30th, 147.4 yards allowed per game), performed well against the pass (ranked second, 184.9 yards allowed per game) and finished 10th overall (184.9 yards allowed per game).

As the Browns wrapped up their three-day mandatory minicamp Thursday afternoon, Jauron shared his vision for the defense in an interview with the Beacon Journal. He believes veteran ends Frostee Rucker and Juqua Parker, both of whom signed with the Browns as free agents in March, and five drafted rookies will aid improvement.

“We’re in a much better position,” Jauron said. “It’s just a very, very tough league and a very tough division. So we’ve got to get a lot better fast and find ways to win more games.”

To do his part in trying to spark a turnaround after the Browns went 4-12 last season, Jauron must put his players in the best position to succeed. His plans for how all the pieces will fit together won’t be finalized until later this summer, but Jauron has ideas about what the finished product might look like.

Linebackers

When starting strongside linebacker Scott Fujita missed the final five games last season with a broken hand, starting weakside linebacker Chris Gocong moved to the strong side and Kaluka Maiava entered the starting lineup on the weak side. If Fujita’s three-game suspension for his alleged role in the New Orleans Saints’ bounty scandal is upheld, Jauron said he plans to insert Maiava again.

“It’s no different than it was a year ago,” Jauron said. “Kaluka’s really a good football player, and I don’t have any qualms about him stepping right in and playing. He’s as tough as they come, and he works very hard at it.”

Even though Jauron said that’s his stance now, he conceded rookies James-Michael Johnson, a fourth-round pick, and Emmanuel Acho, a sixth-round pick, could change his mind.

“Every position is going to be open for competition, so nobody knows what’s going to happen when you go to training camp,” Jauron said. “The veterans hold the positions. They work hard. The odds are they’ll hold it, but there’s no law that says they have to.”

Secondary

Eric Hagg, a seventh-round pick in 2011, has practiced at free safety with the first-team defense throughout organized team activities and minicamp. Jauron conceded Hagg is on the right path toward securing the starting job.

“We’re happy with Eric,” Jauron said. “ … I really like his intensity, really like his study habits, how into the game he is. I think he’s a really good teammate. He’s done a good job for us right now on the field.”

Jauron said cornerback Dimitri Patterson will “absolutely” be considered for a starting role after spending last season as the team’s nickel corner. However, Jauron believes cornerback Sheldon Brown is capable of holding on to his starting job in his 11th NFL season.

“There’s no reason to doubt him,” Jauron said of Brown. “He’s certainly done it every other year he’s been in the league, and there’s not a lot of guys that do it that well and that long. So you’ve got to believe that he will.”

Buster Skrine and rookie Trevin Wade, a seventh-round pick, will get chances at nickel corner, Jauron said.

Linemen

Although Jauron believes Rucker, who’s penciled in as the starting right end, will help the defense improve against the run, losing tackle Phil Taylor hurts. Taylor, the 21st overall pick in 2011, tore his left pectoral muscle last month, had surgery and will be sidelined until at least late October, though he could be out for the entire season.

“It was a big blow,” Jauron said. “I feel badly for us and the organization. I feel badly for Phil, who really worked in the offseason, came back in shape, ready to go and was excited about it.”

Still, Jauron thinks the Browns are better equipped to fill the void than they would have been last season. He named rookies John Hughes, a third-round pick, Billy Winn, a sixth-round pick, and veterans Scott Paxson and Brian Schaefering, who’s recovering from surgery for a sports hernia, as candidates to start in place of Taylor.

“We’re better,” Jauron said. “We’re deeper. We drafted two guys. We think they’ll both end up playing in this league. Pax is a proven veteran. Schaefering will be back for training camp.”




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Footwedge;1193427 wrote:Naught*

Your grammar blows...just sayin. So sorry that one of you butt buds apparently has let you down. Don't worry, tomorrow's another day. Get em then, Tiger.

Your crush on me is cute. The use of a similar word in the wrong context is a common grammatical mistake. The brain is a complex organ, but sometimes common simplicities escape it. You see this from time to time when people, who know the correct meaning of words such as "Their, they're, and there" use them in the wrong context.

For someone such as yourself to talk about anybody's grammar is pure hilarity. It's also hilarious that you continue to thread stalk me.

As for your post, you had no reason to use ellipsis. You also used an improper word with "get em."

Hope this helps.