2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Mar 18, 2012 9:41pm
shook_17;1120491 wrote:For sure that's what im saying! But its always "next year" in cleveland. It never ends lol
Unless something drastic happens, I can say this is the least optimistic I've been about a Browns season in a LONG time. Not even the dreaded "cautiously optimistic."
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Mar 18, 2012 9:42pm
lhslep134;1120411 wrote:Is it? It worked for the Bengals last year.
The schedule worked for the Bengals last year. They went 1-7 against teams with winning records. How good they actually were is highly debatable.

I don't see the Browns getting to play 4 games next year against teams that end up with top 5 picks (and 6 against top 10).
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Mar 18, 2012 9:45pm
Mulva;1120497 wrote:The schedule worked for the Bengals last year. They went 1-7 against teams with winning records. How good they actually were is highly debatable.

I don't see the Browns getting to play 4 games next year against teams that end up with top 5 picks (and 6 against top 10).
And this is a major reason for my pessimism. Looking at the schedule along with the fact they have created even more holes and haven't upgraded at QB gives me no reason for optimism.
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Mar 18, 2012 9:51pm
BR1986FB;1120496 wrote:Unless something drastic happens, I can say this is the least optimistic I've been about a Browns season in a LONG time. Not even the dreaded "cautiously optimistic."
Isn't that the truth. Usually im raa raa raa. This team can make some noise this year. This year its like shitt. We need a franchise qb, rb, 2 wide outs, rt, 2 olb, s, c. Blahhh. The browns taking $400 dollars for a down payment on my season tickets friday hurt! Lol
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Mar 18, 2012 9:54pm
Mulva;1120497 wrote:The schedule worked for the Bengals last year. They went 1-7 against teams with winning records. How good they actually were is highly debatable.

I don't see the Browns getting to play 4 games next year against teams that end up with top 5 picks (and 6 against top 10).
Bingo.
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Mar 18, 2012 9:55pm
DeyDurkie5;1120401 wrote:Colt Mccoy isn't playing every position on the field. He's a winner, and with a good team around him, will win games. In my opinion of course!
He isn't in College anymore.
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Mar 18, 2012 9:55pm
shook_17;1120531 wrote:The browns taking $400 dollars for a down payment on my season tickets friday hurt! Lol
Lol dumbass....


Unlikely to happen but watch this will be the year they have a winning record and frickin H and H will be in their glory throwing it back in the fans face saying "I told you so" :rolleyes:
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Mar 18, 2012 10:01pm
OQB;1120553 wrote: Unlikely to happen but watch this will be the year they have a winning record and frickin H and H will be in their glory throwing it back in the fans face saying "I told you so" :rolleyes:
I'll gladly eat crow if this happens but like you said, "unlikely."
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Mar 18, 2012 10:03pm
Skyhook79;1120551 wrote:He isn't in College anymore.
very cool story, bro
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Mar 18, 2012 10:03pm
OQB;1120553 wrote:Lol dumbass....


Unlikely to happen but watch this will be the year they have a winning record and frickin H and H will be in their glory throwing it back in the fans face saying "I told you so" :rolleyes:
Lol man as much as I get pissed off and wish I could turn my back and walk away from the browns and my season tickets. I can't do it. I live for those Sunday early morning tailgates and the football inside cbs. Spending time with fellow browns fans and my family.

Id gladly eat crow if colt mccoy turns it around and is a perenial pro bowler. As for the regime if they rub it in our face they can suck it. We have suffered long enough, no reason to rub it in
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Mar 18, 2012 10:05pm
BR1986FB;1120571 wrote:I'll gladly eat crow if this happens but like you said, "unlikely."
Amen. I would gladly eat crow.

Just looking at the schedule though and I am not sure where we get more than 4-5 wins from.

I could very easily see us going 1-9 vs. our division and the NFC east. We likely get swept by them, and go 1-5 in the division. 3-7 in those 10 games is likely an absolute best case scenario, and that would take all the stars aligning.

92.3 was carrying the regimes water big time today as I was listening to the radio, but even they admitted Holmgren is going to regret ever saying that 4 or 6 wins is unacceptable considering the schedule we play.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:07pm
I will be serving the crow to you gentlemen:laugh:
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Mar 18, 2012 10:09pm
IggyPride00;1120587 wrote:Amen. I would gladly eat crow.

Just looking at the schedule though and I am not sure where we get more than 4-5 wins from.

I could very easily see us going 1-9 vs. our division and the NFC east. We likely get swept by them, and go 1-5 in the division. 3-7 in those 10 games is likely an absolute best case scenario, and that would take all the stars aligning.

92.3 was carrying the regimes water big time today as I was listening to the radio, but even they admitted Holmgren is going to regret ever saying that 4 or 6 wins is unacceptable considering the schedule we play.
I don't see a win against our division OR the NFC East. I could see a win against Indianapolis but that's about it.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:09pm
shook_17;1120579 wrote:Lol man as much as I get pissed off and wish I could turn my back and walk away from the browns and my season tickets. I can't do it. I live for those Sunday early morning tailgates and the football inside cbs. Spending time with fellow browns fans and my family.

Id gladly eat crow if colt mccoy turns it around and is a perenial pro bowler. As for the regime if they rub it in our face they can suck it. We have suffered long enough, no reason to rub it in
haha that's cool man....I'm sure it is a blast, but since you won't hear it from the Brown's organization...I'm sorry you have to PAY to sit in CBS and watch this shitty team. Kudos to you for keeping your season tickets.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:11pm
I don't see how they have "created" holes. The roster right now is pretty much the same as it was last season minus Hillis, who didn't do shit last year. Steinbach didn't even see the field last year, so I wouldn't count him either. So, where are these holes that were "created?"
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Mar 18, 2012 10:13pm
OQB;1120599 wrote:haha that's cool man....I'm sure it is a blast, but since you won't hear it from the Brown's organization...I'm sorry you have to PAY to sit in CBS and watch this ****ty team. Kudos to you for keeping your season tickets.
Bro it sucks ass. Up to last year I never missed a home game since I've had my tickets. But last year I only went to four. The games were THAT boring. The tailgates were more exciting then the actual game. One day it has to turn.. right? Ha
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Mar 18, 2012 10:14pm
BR1986FB;1120596 wrote:I don't see a win against our division OR the NFC East. I could see a win against Indianapolis but that's about it.
lol why the fuck are the skins all of a sudden heavy favorites against the Browns?

Sorry, the Browns aren't great, but you guys are making them look like they are as bad as they were in Mangini's first year. All their games this year were competitive, now all of a sudden we are going to make them 14 pt underdogs against teams like the fucking redskins?
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Mar 18, 2012 10:15pm
shook_17;1120611 wrote:Bro it sucks ass. Up to last year I never missed a home game since I've had my tickets. But last year I only went to four. The games were THAT boring. The tailgates were more exciting then the actual game. One day it has to turn.. right? Ha
Well since you're from Genoa, atleast you get to see some offense in the regular season watching Genoa play! :p
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Mar 18, 2012 10:16pm
like_that;1120604 wrote:I don't see how they have "created" holes. The roster right now is pretty much the same as it was last season minus Hillis, who didn't do **** last year. Steinbach didn't even see the field last year, so I wouldn't count him either. So, where are these holes that were "created?"
I was reading one of heckerts pressers. It sounds like he has a hard on for hardesty. I wouldn't be surprised if he is our starter next year. But pashos is gone, so rt, and I think the "holes" they are speaking of is upgrades at positions like wr, rt, rg, olb, s, c and rb.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:18pm
shook_17;1120623 wrote:I was reading one of heckerts pressers. It sounds like he has a hard on for hardesty. I wouldn't be surprised if he is our starter next year. But pashos is gone, so rt, and I think the "holes" they are speaking of is upgrades at positions like wr, rt, rg, olb, s, c and rb.
Well fuck, I look at getting rid of Pashos as filling a hole lol.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:18pm
like_that;1120614 wrote:lol why the fuck are the skins all of a sudden heavy favorites against the Browns?

Sorry, the Browns aren't great, but you guys are making them look like they are as bad as they were in Mangini's first year. All their games this year were competitive, now all of a sudden we are going to make them 14 pt underdogs against teams like the fucking redskins?
Skins beat the Giants 2x's last year. Who said anything about "heavy favorite" or "14 point underdogs?" Browns will be VERY bad.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:19pm
OQB;1120620 wrote:Well since you're from Genoa, atleast you get to see some offense in the regular season watching Genoa play! :p

Haha. For sure. I actually got to play for vicars there. Great memories. But there offense is better than the browns! Haha

Side note. Vicars fired the rb coach buckley, ( bc buckley and DC speiss didn't get along) so after that I guess 4 other coaches resigned because of the firing and the reason vicars gave them. Its sad.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:20pm
like_that;1120627 wrote:Well ****, I look at getting rid of Pashos as filling a hole lol.
Lol reps bro!
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Mar 18, 2012 10:21pm
shook_17;1120633 wrote:Haha. For sure. I actually got to play for vicars there. Great memories. But there offense is better than the browns! Haha

Side note. Vicars fired the rb coach buckley, ( bc buckley and DC speiss didn't get along) so after that I guess 4 other coaches resigned because of the firing and the reason vicars gave them. Its sad.
wow that's crazy.


ok back to Browns.
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Mar 18, 2012 10:22pm
BR1986FB;1120631 wrote:Skins beat the Giants 2x's last year. Who said anything about "heavy favorite" or "14 point underdogs?" Browns will be VERY bad.
So? The Browns beat the Saints and Pats 2 seasons ago. That really didn't mean shit going into this past season.

The Browns played every division rival close. If it wasn't for a fluke play in week 1, they would have had a win against the division too.

I think you need to take a break from listening to Cleveland radio. It seems to work you up.