Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Mar 17, 2012 11:08pm
I was just getting on here to voice my displeasure in seeing the deal he signed. The only thing I can think that remotely makes sense is that they reached out and he wasn't interested.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Mar 17, 2012 11:09pm
As we go on with this regime and after reading/hearing Holmgren's comments this past week, I don't think that Heckert is the one making the personal decisions.
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Mar 17, 2012 11:39pm
That's why Holmgren is called "The Czar"Al Bundy;1119858 wrote:As we go on with this regime and after reading/hearing Holmgren's comments this past week, I don't think that Heckert is the one making the personal decisions.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 18, 2012 12:01am
The Winston signing I find particularly puzzling. Seemed like a perfect to me.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 18, 2012 12:18am
He's a free agent, so he's worthless.Commander of Awesome;1119882 wrote:The Winston signing I find particularly puzzling. Seemed like a perfect to me.
/Heckert'd
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Mar 18, 2012 12:30am
Mario Manningham is now off the board as it is being reported he signed with the 49ers tonight.
Moss/Manningham/Crabtree/ and Vernon Davis is a hell of a lot of weapons for one QB. I wonder if Peyton Manning noticed?
I would love to know how Heckert plans to fill all our holes because we only have so many picks in the first few rounds (where most impact players are found) and just about all the free agents worth having are off the board.
Moss/Manningham/Crabtree/ and Vernon Davis is a hell of a lot of weapons for one QB. I wonder if Peyton Manning noticed?
I would love to know how Heckert plans to fill all our holes because we only have so many picks in the first few rounds (where most impact players are found) and just about all the free agents worth having are off the board.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 10:33am
From what I heard, no attempt to reach out to him. I'm getting the feeling more & more that they are comfortable with Lauvao/Pinkston @ the guards and they will use a 1st-3rd on a RT to groom.Dr. KnOiTaLL;1119857 wrote:I was just getting on here to voice my displeasure in seeing the deal he signed. The only thing I can think that remotely makes sense is that they reached out and he wasn't interested.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 10:42am
[HR][/HR]
Chris Mortensen ‏
@
mortreport If Manning chooses # Titans, QB market gains @
Hasselbeck . What about reunion w his ex-Seahawks coach
(Holmgren) in Cleve n same offense?
http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/03/17/sports/doc4f654b176d664976427396.txt
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1907516215/Manning-messes-with-Browns
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/03/nfls_track_record_on_building.html
Chris Mortensen ‏
@
mortreport If Manning chooses # Titans, QB market gains @
Hasselbeck . What about reunion w his ex-Seahawks coach
(Holmgren) in Cleve n same offense?
http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/03/17/sports/doc4f654b176d664976427396.txt
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1907516215/Manning-messes-with-Browns
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/03/nfls_track_record_on_building.html
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Mar 18, 2012 12:24pm
BR1986FB;1119929 wrote:[HR][/HR]
Chris Mortensen ‏
@
mortreportIf Manning chooses # Titans, QB market gains @
Hasselbeck . What about reunion w his ex-Seahawks coach
(Holmgren) in Cleve n same offense?
http://morningjournal.com/articles/2012/03/17/sports/doc4f654b176d664976427396.txt
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x1907516215/Manning-messes-with-Browns
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/03/nfls_track_record_on_building.html
Oh God, Holmgren is probably getting a hard on just reading these rumors......
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 18, 2012 12:48pm
fifyOQB;1119962 wrote:Oh God, Wes is probably getting a hard on just reading these rumors......
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 12:52pm
I think Holmgren's "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable" comment is setting the stage to oust Shurmur if he doesn't meet up to these expectations. Also think he knows this team is going to be REAL bad this year and will be in a very good position to get Barkley, hence "rolling with McCoy."
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 18, 2012 12:53pm
playoffs BR, playoffsBR1986FB;1119979 wrote:I think Holmgren's "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable" comment is setting the stage to oust Shurmur if he doesn't meet up to these expectations. Also think he knows this team is going to be REAL bad this year and will be in a very good position to get Barkley, hence "rolling with McCoy."
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 18, 2012 12:56pm
BR1986FB;1119402 wrote:I don't think Shurmur's the problem and Holmgren is going to look REAL foolish after setting the bar with "4 wins, even 6 wins is unacceptable." I understand he has to show optimism but I just don't see this roster conjuring up 4 wins as constructed.
The Browns will host the Kansas City Chiefs, San Diego Chargers, Buffalo Bills, Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins, and travel to play the Denver Broncos, Oakland Raiders, Indianapolis Colts, Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants. Add in the division opponents and I could see possible wins against Indianapolis and maybe Buffalo or Kansas City, if lucky.
Soooo, the Browns will be lucky to not go winless this year? Got it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 12:59pm
Agreedlike_that;1119982 wrote:Soooo, the Browns will be lucky to not go winless this year? Got it.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 1:00pm
Hmmm...didn't make the playoffs LAST year when the schedule was ridiculously easy compared to this years? Don't think so.DeyDurkie5;1119980 wrote:playoffs BR, playoffs
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 18, 2012 1:34pm
Im late to the FA party, but god damn.....another year, same old Browns.With money to spend..let one of your key players walk and be passive as fuck in pursuing play makers.
I've liked what they have done in the draft the past few years, but at this rate they will never field a competitive team. IMO they were only a few pieces away from being there, but only are creating more needs.
I've liked what they have done in the draft the past few years, but at this rate they will never field a competitive team. IMO they were only a few pieces away from being there, but only are creating more needs.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 18, 2012 1:34pm
OH REALY? See my sig.Footwedge;1119085 wrote:LOL!.. if you quote me...get it right. I said Pryor would be catchin balls before he's throwin em in the NFL. Fail.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Mar 18, 2012 2:13pm
typical Footwedge, spinning it how he sees fit.Pick6;1120005 wrote:OH REALY? See my sig.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 18, 2012 2:20pm
Charlie Campbell's new 2013 mock has the Browns getting the #1 overall pick.
Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013charlie.phpIn the next update of my 2012 mock draft, I'll have the Browns selecting either LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne or Oklahoma State wide receiver Justin Blackmon. The Browns organization is a mess right now
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 18, 2012 2:29pm
Might not have to trade up for it. Colts might be worse...Mulva;1120020 wrote:Charlie Campbell's new 2013 mock has the Browns getting the #1 overall pick.
Cleveland Browns: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
http://walterfootball.com/draft2013charlie.php
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 18, 2012 2:41pm
1. Hillis is not a "key player" he had a fluke yearPick6;1120004 wrote:Im late to the FA party, but god damn.....another year, same old Browns.With money to spend..let one of your key players walk and be passive as **** in pursuing play makers.
2. Exactly which major playmaker's contract do you suggest we should have taken on? Because I don't see one worth it.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 18, 2012 2:42pm
well if this guy is right, next year is going to suck ass.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 18, 2012 2:44pm
Winston is probably the only contract I would want the Browns to take on.lhslep134;1120044 wrote:1. Hillis is not a "key player" he had a fluke year
2. Exactly which major playmaker's contract do you suggest we should have taken on? Because I don't see one worth it.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 18, 2012 2:50pm
I agree. Possibly Grubbs, but if the Browns can bring Steinbach back at a reduced price I'm OK with that too.like_that;1120046 wrote:Winston is probably the only contract I would want the Browns to take on.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 18, 2012 3:37pm
They need to bring him back. It needs to get done.lhslep134;1120052 wrote:I agree. Possibly Grubbs, but if the Browns can bring Steinbach back at a reduced price I'm OK with that too.