Mulva;1113621 wrote:The defensive numbers were completely inflated last year. It's solid, but there are pieces missing. As of right now I wouldn't put it in the top 10.

The offense is bottom 3.

I agree. I'd put them right around 15, middle of the pack, on defense. Still have no real "game changers" like an Ed Reed or a Polamalu on that side of the ball.

Offense....puke

Mulva;1113621 wrote:The defensive numbers were completely inflated last year. It's solid, but there are pieces missing. As of right now I wouldn't put it in the top 10.

The offense is bottom 3.

BR1986FB;1113625 wrote:I agree. I'd put them right around 15, middle of the pack, on defense. Still have no real "game changers" like an Ed Reed or a Polamalu on that side of the ball.

Offense....puke

When it comes down to it, the most important statistic for defenses is points allowed. Browns were top 5. I don't see how that is inflated.

Good defenses learn to deal with adversity, and shut the offense down when they are in the red zone. The Browns stuffed numerous teams well inside the 10. If they ever become a playoff team, that type of defense will be crucial.

BR1986FB;1113625 wrote:I agree. I'd put them right around 15, middle of the pack, on defense. Still have no real "game changers" like an Ed Reed or a Polamalu on that side of the ball.

Offense....puke

I agree, there are no game changers on D... yet. I think Joe Haden is on his way. He certainly has earned the respect of the league, but won't be a true shutdown corner until teams stop passing in his direction. TJ is an enforcing safety, which I like (much like Linch), but if we're looking for a gamechanger on defense, I believe Claiborne is the answer. I just feel like there are many more significant needs on offense as opposed to defense.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1113643 wrote:I agree, there are no game changers on D... yet. I think Joe Haden is on his way. He certainly has earned the respect of the league, but won't be a true shutdown corner until teams stop passing in his direction. TJ is an enforcing safety, which I like (much like Linch), but if we're looking for a gamechanger on defense, I believe Claiborne is the answer. I just feel like there are many more significant needs on offense as opposed to defense.

I think Haden could be one of those players but he took a step back in 2011, imo. I think what can vault Haden into that category is if they get a significant pass rush, ala the New York Giants. TJ Ward is a "jury's out" kind of guy to me. He could be another Hardesty, injury-wise, as he has a history of getting dinged up.

I'd REALLY like to see them add an athletic, stud OLB. DQ Jackson is a solid, tackling machine but I just don't think he's that "impact' guy like a young Ray Lewis or Patrick Willis at the position.

Read THIS and weep (believe me, I'd be 'weeping' if this happens at 4)...

http://networkedblogs.com/v4EGQ

12th March, 2012 - 12:00 pmHarvard Sports Analysis Collective - A study from the Harvard Sports Analysis Collective suggests Robert Griffin III will need to have a career similar to Tom Brady for the Redskins to justify the trade price.

"..The total price the Redskins paid was 753.5 eCAVOA. That price translates to a CAV of 113.0, comparable to Tom Brady’s current production to date (109 CAV). For the Redskins to get the equivalent value from RGIII as they spent acquiring him, he must produce at least as much as Tom Brady. If RGIII merely lives up to his eCAVOA, he’ll finish his career having slightly outperformed David Garrard (61 CAV). Because all-time-great quarterbacks are rare commodities, the Redskins likely lost value both on paper and in reality."

The report suggests the trade compares to what the Falcons gave up to draft Julio Jones, but isn't as high as what the Saints gave up to trade for Ricky Williams.
Read more: http://football.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/26304/20120312/report_rgiii_will_need_to_have_brady_like_career_to_justify_trade/#ixzz1ovN9mOz2

BR1986FB;1113656 wrote:Read THIS and weep (believe me, I'd be 'weeping' if this happens at 4)...

http://networkedblogs.com/v4EGQ

It's blocked here at work. What do they have us doing?

like_that;1113713 wrote:It's blocked here at work. What do they have us doing?

Tannehill at 4

In other news, looks like our old friend Jeff Faine will be cut by Tampa.

Ryan Tannehill at #4.

BR1986FB;1113716 wrote:Tannehill at 4

In other news, looks like our old friend Jeff Faine will be cut by Tampa.

Highly doubt that happens. Not too worried about it.

BR1986FB;1113716 wrote:Tannehill at 4

In other news, looks like our old friend Jeff Faine will be cut by Tampa.

If we take Tannehill at 4, I will quit watching NFL and start watching NASCAR... only for Danica of course!

Commander of Awesome;1113688 wrote: Robert Griffin III will need to have a career similar to Tom Brady for the Redskins to justify the trade price.

Epic.

Dr. KnOiTaLL;1113725 wrote:If we take Tannehill at 4, I will quit watching NFL and start watching NASCAR... only for Danica of course!

So now you know how I feel about moving forward with McCoy.

Would you rather... move forward with McCoy or take Tannehill at 4? I would go for McCoy.

McCoy all day. Because that probably means having a high pick next year for jones or Barkley

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/pierre-garcon-will-be-testing-free-agency/

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43690/afc-north-team-needs-browns

DeyDurkie5;1113770 wrote:http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/12/pierre-garcon-will-be-testing-free-agency/

I bet that he along with V-Jax will be Redskins.

OneBuckeye;1113748 wrote:Would you rather... move forward with McCoy or take Tannehill at 4? I would go for McCoy.

id rather trade down to 10 and draft tannehill if they have a hard on for him. think thats worthy of a number 1 pick next year?

DeyDurkie5;1113772 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/43690/afc-north-team-needs-browns

I'd probably rank RB third of those three unless they were going in no particular order.

BR1986FB;1113777 wrote:I'd probably rank RB third of those three unless they were going in no particular order.

I don't think they were in any order because that writer shared my feelings of the Browns WR options...

It's funny how many regular down players the Browns have that would only see special teams action on other teams.

Midstate01;1113769 wrote:McCoy all day. Because that probably means having a high pick next year for jones or Barkley

If we are picking high enough next year to be able to draft Barkley Heckert/Holmgren/Shumur are gone, at which point all bets will be off.

If Manning chooses Denver we are screwed. Flynn goes to Miami, Kolb stays in Arizona, and we are left with the table scraps in free agency at the QB position.

I don't want any part of Tannehill at 4, but he isn't going to be there at 22, and I don't want to trade picks in order to trade back up to get him.

It's kind of a no win situation right now it seems anyway you look at it.

OMG, OMG....It sounds like the HAMMER just got dropped by Goodell. If I'm reading this right, the Cowboys and Redskins just got punished for cash dumping? Cowboys lose $10 million in cap space while the Skins lose $36 million over the next two years per Schefter? Skins are FUCKED.

On an unrelated note, Ozzie Guillen just got tossed out of a spring training game hahaha

BR1986FB;1113789 wrote:OMG, OMG....It sounds like the HAMMER just got dropped by Goodell. If I'm reading this right, the Cowboys and Redskins just got punished for cash dumping? Cowboys lose $10 million in cap space while the Skins lose $36 million over the next two years per Schefter? Skins are ****ED.

Ouch, this could have tremendous implications in free agency as both teams were lined up to be major players in FA acquisitions.