Archive 2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

DeyDurkie5

Posts: 11,324

Mar 10, 2012 3:13pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82782e9b/article/more-than-just-another-brownout-in-cleveland?module=HP11_content_stream

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 10, 2012 3:20pm

DeyDurkie5;1111462 wrote:is that BR?:laugh:

No, but I found this nifty video of you and your teammates racing a camel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCNVvvmxNw

DeyDurkie5

Posts: 11,324

Mar 10, 2012 3:21pm

BR1986FB;1111471 wrote:No, but I found this nifty video of you and your teammates racing a camel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCNVvvmxNw

LOL I would love to watch that live..awesome

Tigerfan00

Posts: 3,427

Mar 10, 2012 3:27pm

Im guessing the midgets represent the Browns offense?

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buckeyes_woowee

Posts: 512

Mar 10, 2012 3:27pm

Mulva;1111438 wrote:No.

Look at what guys like Fitzgerald, Brandon Marshall, and Dwayne Bowe did with Kolb/Skelton/Matt Moore/Cassel/Orton/Palko throwing to them this year.

Reggie Wayne had his worst season in years, but still put up 75 catches for 960 yards with Curtis Painter throwing to him. Great receivers make plays without great quarterbacks.

Yeah and now look at the teams that these great WRs are on. Winning teams have a franchise QB with a good offensive scheme. You don't need great WRs you need WRs that fit the scheme

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BR1986FB

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Mar 10, 2012 3:32pm

buckeyes_woowee;1111478 wrote:Yeah and now look at the teams that these great WRs are on. Winning teams have a good Qb that fits an offensive scheme. You don't need great WRs you need Wrs that fit the scheme

Everyone wants to throw all of these great receiving corps out there but what about Tom Brady? He's had Randy Moss and now Gronk. Brady has MADE Wes Welker what he is today. Other than that, he hasn't had sh#t for receivers (and don't bring up Deion Branch...he's nothing special).

Someone PLEASE tell me which elite WR has carried their team to a championship with a middle of the road QB? While, we could probably name quite a few Elite QB's would have carried their teams to titles with not so great receivers.

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buckeyes_woowee

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Mar 10, 2012 3:35pm

BR1986FB;1111482 wrote:Everyone wants to throw all of these great receiving corps out there but what about Tom Brady? He's had Randy Moss and now Gronk. Brady has MADE Wes Welker what he is today. Other than that, he hasn't had sh#t for receivers (and don't bring up Deion Branch...he's nothing special).

Someone PLEASE tell me which elite WR has carried their team to a championship with a middle of the road QB? While, we could probably name quite a few Elite QB's would have carried their teams to titles with not so great receivers.

Exactly my point. To me drafting a WR in the 1st round this year is pointless for the Browns

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Mar 10, 2012 3:37pm

buckeyes_woowee;1111478 wrote:Yeah and now look at the teams that these great WRs are on. Winning teams have a franchise QB with a good offensive scheme. You don't need great WRs you need WRs that fit the scheme

That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

You said the difference between most good and average receivers is the QB. That isn't true at all.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 10, 2012 3:38pm

buckeyes_woowee;1111484 wrote:Exactly my point. To me drafting a WR in the 1st round this year is pointless for the Browns

Preaching to the choir. Unless they get someone capable of getting them the ball, drafting Blackmon is a waste running him on 3-5 yard pass patterns to accentuate McCoy's "skillset."

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buckeyes_woowee

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Mar 10, 2012 3:50pm

Mulva;1111485 wrote:That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

You said the difference between most good and average receivers is the QB. That isn't true at all.

You have exceptions with some of the great WRs that will put up numbers no matter what. (Fitz, Andre Johnson, Wayne, Marshall)

I'm talking about guys like (Welker, Cruz, Nicks, Colston, Jordy Nelson, Antonio Brown) who fit well in a scheme. Put these guys an teams with a poor QB and they are nothing but average.

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BR1986FB

Posts: 24,104

Mar 10, 2012 3:53pm

buckeyes_woowee;1111495 wrote:You have exceptions with some of the great WRs that will put up numbers no matter what. (Fitz, Andre Johnson, Wayne, Marshall)

I'm talking about guys like (Welker, Cruz, Nicks, Colston, Jordy Nelson, Antonio Brown) who fit well in a scheme. Put these guys an teams with a poor QB and they are nothing but average.

Agree with this. The second group you posted wouldn't be nearly as effective with McCoy throwing them the ball.

Midstate01

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Mar 10, 2012 4:05pm

I'm in on trading with the rams, do they can get Blackmon and hopefully we can get Claiborne. Him, ward, and Haden sounds nice.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 10, 2012 4:08pm

Midstate01;1111507 wrote:I'm in on trading with the rams, do they can get Blackmon and hopefully we can get Claiborne. Him, ward, and Haden sounds nice.

If you trade with the Rams you make them bleed from the ass. I'm talking both their 2nd's this year and a future 1st, at a MINIMUM. Otherwise, choose another trading partner. The Browns weren't good enough for the trade up but now you want to trade back up with us? On your knees and call me "daddy."

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 10, 2012 4:23pm

BR1986FB;1111511 wrote:If you trade with the Rams you make them bleed from the ass. I'm talking both their 2nd's this year and a future 1st, at a MINIMUM. Otherwise, choose another trading partner. The Browns weren't good enough for the trade up but now you want to trade back up with us? On your knees and call me "daddy."

I definitely agree with this. Fuck them. They can go fuck themselves with that lucky ass trade.

Midstate01

Posts: 14,766

Mar 10, 2012 4:24pm

I agree as well.

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Mar 10, 2012 4:25pm

Well since the deal with Washington isn't complete till Tuesday why doesn't heckert just offer a little bit more to the rams if they really want rg3? Technically the trade isn't complete so really they could.

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 10, 2012 4:33pm

Crimson streak;1111543 wrote:Well since the deal with Washington isn't complete till Tuesday why doesn't heckert just offer a little bit more to the rams if they really want rg3? Technically the trade isn't complete so really they could.

Because the Rams can go fuck themselves.

Crimson streak

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Mar 10, 2012 4:34pm

Agreed

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BR1986FB

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Mar 10, 2012 4:48pm

New Era's 2012 Draft Cap...

http://www.nationalfootballauthority.com/2012/03/2012-nfl-draft-new-era-releases.html

like_that

Posts: 26,625

Mar 10, 2012 4:49pm

BR1986FB;1111595 wrote:New Era's 2012 Draft Cap...

http://www.nationalfootballauthority.com/2012/03/2012-nfl-draft-new-era-releases.html

Those are horrible. I hate how these hats are trying to appeal to the thugs these days.

Commander of Awesome

Posts: 23,151

Mar 10, 2012 4:50pm

Not a fan of the hat.

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BR1986FB

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Mar 10, 2012 4:52pm

like_that;1111597 wrote:Those are horrible. I hate how these hats are trying to appeal to the thugs these days.

I think those flat billed caps are dumb as fuck.

IggyPride00

Posts: 6,482

Mar 10, 2012 4:59pm

Steve Hutchinson to be released:

Hutchinson was swiped from the Seahawks via a poison-pill offer when Mike Holmgren was the coach in Seattle and Brad Childress was the coach in Minnesota. They both now work for the Browns, and we’d be surprised if Hutchinson doesn’t end up there, too.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/10/report-vikings-to-cut-steve-hutchinson-anthony-herrera/

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Mar 10, 2012 5:00pm

You could always bend the bill.

Enforcer

Posts: 2,140

Mar 10, 2012 5:00pm

osudarby08;1111430 wrote:[video]http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2012/03/browns-fan-with-machete-goes-on-epic-rant-over-not-getting-rg3-video/[/video]

YES (NSFW language)

Isnt that the same Guy who went on a rant about Tressel a while back and his video was posted on OC?