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Oct 20, 2011 6:28 PM
Skyhook79;939963 wrote:5 games into the season and Browns fans are already talking about next years draft. smh
I talk about the draft year round. Doesn't matter what slot they're picking in. Should have two nice picks this year in that I don't see the Falcons making the playoffs. Nothing wrong with talking about areas of need and who might be available.
Oct 20, 2011 6:28pm
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Oct 20, 2011 6:29 PM
Skyhook79;939963 wrote:5 games into the season and Browns fans are already talking about next years draft. smh
And what's wrong with talking about your teams' needs? That's what this board is for....to have discussions. They could be 5-0 and we would still be talking about their needs.
Oct 20, 2011 6:29pm
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Oct 20, 2011 6:59 PM
royal_k;939974 wrote:And what's wrong with talking about your teams' needs? That's what this board is for....to have discussions. They could be 5-0 and we would still be talking about their needs.

He is just trolling. Somebody from Cleveland must have hurt his feelings because 95% of his posts are geared toward taking jabs at Cleveland teams. Shows how weak minded he is that SQ got under his skin.
Oct 20, 2011 6:59pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:01 PM
like_that;940007 wrote:He is just trolling. Somebody from Cleveland must have hurt his feelings because 95% of his posts are geared toward taking jabs at Cleveland teams. Shows how weak minded he is that SQ got under his skin.
The funny part is that I thought he was a Browns fan?
Oct 20, 2011 7:01pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:04 PM
BR1986FB;940012 wrote:The funny part is that I thought he was a Browns fan?

He hasn't even owned up to his favorite team yet.
Oct 20, 2011 7:04pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:09 PM
like_that;940020 wrote:He hasn't even owned up to his favorite team yet.
Pretty easy to poke jabs at fans of other teams when you don't make it know who your team is.
Oct 20, 2011 7:09pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:23 PM
royal_k;939974 wrote:They could be 5-0 and we would still be talking about their needs.
No you wouldn't but the Browns haven't seen 5-0 since 1963 so it's pretty much unprovable.
Oct 20, 2011 7:23pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:24 PM
Skyhook79;940051 wrote:No you wouldn't but the Browns haven't seen 5-0 since 1963 so it's pretty much unprovable.

So who is your team?
Oct 20, 2011 7:24pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:26 PM
like_that;940054 wrote:So who is your team?
The LA Lakers, I bet he's a GB Packers fan though. I'm sure he has a story as to why it's his team and I'm sure we'll here the nod to Packers team from the late 80s to really cement his fanhod. SMH, pathetic.
Oct 20, 2011 7:26pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:31 PM
Skyhook79;940051 wrote:No you wouldn't but the Browns haven't seen 5-0 since 1963 so it's pretty much unprovable.
You don't know me...therefore you don't know what I'd be talking about.
Oct 20, 2011 7:31pm
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Oct 20, 2011 7:47 PM
Skyhook79;940051 wrote:No you wouldn't but the Browns haven't seen 5-0 since 1963 so it's pretty much unprovable.
more unprovable than jesus?
Oct 20, 2011 7:47pm
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Oct 20, 2011 8:10 PM
BR1986FB;940012 wrote:The funny part is that I thought he was a Browns fan?
I am a Browns fan, one that doesn't accept this crap they have been spewing out since 1999. They can't even get hiring a Head Coach right 5 in the last 11 years. smh
Oct 20, 2011 8:10pm
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Oct 20, 2011 8:18 PM
Skyhook79;940105 wrote:I am a Browns fan, one that doesn't accept this crap they have been spewing out since 1999. They can't even get hiring a Head Coach right 5 in the last 11 years. smh
You're right whining and quit being a fan helps. Really showed them.
Oct 20, 2011 8:18pm
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Oct 20, 2011 8:29 PM
Skyhook79;940105 wrote:I am a Browns fan, one that doesn't accept this crap they have been spewing out since 1999. They can't even get hiring a Head Coach right 5 in the last 11 years. smh

So you attack browns fans yet you ate one yourself? Nice selfpwn.
Oct 20, 2011 8:29pm
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Oct 21, 2011 5:18 AM
Skyhook79;940051 wrote:No you wouldn't but the Browns haven't seen 5-0 since 1963 so it's pretty much unprovable.
I know I would. Talking about the draft and future needs isn't just an "oh shit, we suck again...can't wait for the draft" response for some.
Oct 21, 2011 5:18am
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Oct 21, 2011 9:12 AM
Report today in the Akron paper that Holmgren was quoted as saying that McCoy's and Hillis' future in Cleveland is not assured. I guess the old saying "What have you done for me lately?" applies.
Oct 21, 2011 9:12am
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Oct 21, 2011 10:03 AM
What do you expect with Hillis there not giving him the ball?
Oct 21, 2011 10:03am
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Oct 21, 2011 10:41 AM
BR1986FB;940515 wrote:I know I would. Talking about the draft and future needs isn't just an "oh shit, we suck again...can't wait for the draft" response for some.
Your team is 5-0 and your going to be concerned with who they could possibly draft 9 months from now?
Oct 21, 2011 10:41am
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Oct 21, 2011 10:47 AM
Skyhook79;940618 wrote:Your team is 5-0 and your going to be concerned with who they could possibly draft 9 months from now?
I love the draft so yes I would be.
Oct 21, 2011 10:47am
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Oct 21, 2011 10:50 AM
Skyhook79;940618 wrote:Your team is 5-0 and your going to be concerned with who they could possibly draft 9 months from now?
Well at that point it's not being concerned, as it is discussing your future for the team. What is wrong with talking about the future draft? You are a joke
Oct 21, 2011 10:50am
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Oct 21, 2011 11:04 AM
HitsRus;940569 wrote:Report today in the Akron paper that Holmgren was quoted as saying that McCoy's and Hillis' future in Cleveland is not assured. I guess the old saying "What have you done for me lately?" applies.
That's the philosophy of all pro sports teams -- and has been since, forever. That's why NFL contracts aren't all guaranteed and tend to be front-loaded.

As for people who whine about wanting to keep changing coaches...the man has coached half a dozen games and we're ready to say, "Next!" That would be really, really stupid. One sure sign that a franchise will never, ever improve is constantly changing head coaches.

Honestly, Shurmur has shown some good things and some bad so far; not unexpected. What I think he really needs is an offensive coordinator so he can focus on the team overall. If he still wants to have a hand in play calls, fine, but let someone else focus on what defenses are doing and how to counter it during games. It's a full time job by itself.

If after a few years (I think new coaches typically should be given 3 years to see what they can do) and he's still making rookie mistakes, you start looking for a replacement. But give him time to establish what he wants to do, get personnel that fit his schemes, and see if it's successful. You can't do that in one year.
Oct 21, 2011 11:04am
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Oct 21, 2011 2:23 PM
HitsRus;940569 wrote:I guess the old saying "What have you done for me lately?" applies.
I would say "what have you ever done for me?" is more appropriate in Colt McCoy's case. It's not like he was terrific last season and has fallen off this year.
Oct 21, 2011 2:23pm
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Oct 21, 2011 2:29 PM
Mulva;940792 wrote:I would say "what have you ever done for me?" is more appropriate in Colt McCoy's case. It's not like he was terrific last season and has fallen off this year.
True.

I love Colt's competitiveness and character, but I'm not so sure he's the guy either.

Granted, his best WR is a rookie and the right side of the line is trash, plus he hasn't had much of a running game this year. I don't know if you can make a sure fire call on him quite yet.
Oct 21, 2011 2:29pm
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Oct 21, 2011 2:30 PM
Mulva;940792 wrote:I would say "what have you ever done for me?" is more appropriate in Colt McCoy's case. It's not like he was terrific last season and has fallen off this year.
Even Hillis hasn't proven what he can do over an extended period of time. Rueben Droughns put up 1232 yards for the Browns in 2005. Hillis had 1177 last year. You don't give a RB a huge contract based upon one season.
Oct 21, 2011 2:30pm
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Oct 21, 2011 2:35 PM
hoops23;940797 wrote:Granted, his best WR is a rookie and the right side of the line is trash, plus he hasn't had much of a running game this year. I don't know if you can make a sure fire call on him quite yet.
I wouldn't bail on him yet either. Just saying it isn't really a "lately" situation. There are obviously bigger problems to fix though.
Oct 21, 2011 2:35pm