Fidmeister;711889 wrote:You saw him at a game because he's an alum and a huge fan.

Anyone who questions his feelings on Ohio State should go back and look at the photo of him hopping on Eddie George when Prisoner #13MCOSB stripped Sean Taylor in the national title game.

The problem is you guys want homer on the air, too. He can't do that so he tells the truth.

Ask yourself, as critical as he could have been when Jim Tressel's three most high-profile players ran into off-the-field trouble, didn't he pretty much stay quiet?

Also, cbf, you don't know that his wife and kids don't catch shit. They might have, they might not have. Very few people know for sure.

OneBuckeye;711900 wrote:Then how do you legitimize rooting for ANY pro sports team?

Writerbuckeye;711905 wrote:Your face palm is pure idiocy, just so you know

It doesn't matter one iota whether someone is an alum or simply likes to follow a team. Both give a FAN the right to comment on how a national "analyst" is portraying their favorite team.

My complaint, and that of many others, is how he TREATS OSU as compared to other football programs. He has gone out of his way to say things about OSU and its players he has never, ever said about any other program. That shows a bias -- ironically from a man who tells us he is only being "objective" when he is critical of Ohio State.

Writerbuckeye;711905 wrote:when he is critical of Ohio State.

karen lotz;711928 wrote:This is the problem you have with him. He isn't overly critical, but he can be critical at times. In your eyes, no one can be critical of anything OSU. What would you be saying if he was overly homerish and talked about OSU the way sleeper does? You would go out of your way to applaud him and say he is a great analyst.

queencitybuckeye;711952 wrote:Why do opinions bother people so much?

vball10set;711963 wrote:because it's not what they believe...sad, isn't it?

karen lotz;711928 wrote:This is the problem you have with him. He isn't overly critical, but he can be critical at times. In your eyes, no one can be critical of anything OSU. What would you be saying if he was overly homerish and talked about OSU the way sleeper does? You would go out of your way to applaud him and say he is a great analyst.

queencitybuckeye;711952 wrote:Why do opinions bother people so much?

queencitybuckeye;711969 wrote:That one would take it as seriously as some seem to do is extremely sad. Pathetic, really.

OneBuckeye;711999 wrote:Herbie takes his opinion too seriously because he quarrels with the people who criticize him. He just can't ignore them like everyone else who has people who don't like him.

Manhattan Buckeye;709008 wrote:People are stupid. By any non- biased pov Nashville is entirely better than Columbus. Growing city, NFL team, great music venues, no income tax, far better weather, excellent public and private schools, good airport, great hospitals and relatively low cost of living. Do people really care where he lives? If so, pathetic.

Writerbuckeye;711907 wrote:Our objections have NOTHING to do with his feelings for OSU. See my post about how he has treated his own school much harsher and differently than any other during his years on the air.

Fidmeister;712356 wrote:You say overly critical. Most of the entire nation says realist.

You expect him to wear a scarlet and gray suit on the air when Ohio State plays (Clark Kellogg) or be direct about his admiration for all things Buckeye (Spielman). ESPN, who pays him to be its lead college football analyst, expects him to be unbiased. To me, that's what he does.

It comes from being touchy whenever anyone criticizes Ohio State football, even with facts.

Writerbuckeye;712421 wrote:Keep trying to twist what I'm saying -- it's not working.

He brought this grief on himself by using two different standards when doing his "analysis" and probably thought he could say things about OSU he wouldn't dare say about any other school -- because it was OSU, and nobody would call him on it.

He was wrong.

ytownfootball;712465 wrote:I don't understand how you can possibly think that dropping Ohio State from 7th to 9th in the final poll following a win against Arkansas isn't being "overly critical" It's quite laughable to the point of you simply showing bias against OSU. That's fine, just come out and say it I'll certainly at least respect that, not recognizing flat out bullshit....not so much.

...and spare me the "making a statement about Pryor playing in the bowl game" nonsense. He has plenty of opportunity to voice those thoughts given his platform, voting on field results isn't the forum and you know it.

Fidmeister;712495 wrote:Dropping them in the poll? What did it cost them again? IMO, you all are making too much out of a vote. When you get this offended because of where someone voted a team, perhaps that's proof we should just say fuck it and go to a playoff.

ytownfootball;712465 wrote:I don't understand how you can possibly think that dropping Ohio State from 7th to 9th in the final poll following a win against Arkansas isn't being "overly critical" It's quite laughable to the point of you simply showing bias against OSU. That's fine, just come out and say it I'll certainly at least respect that, not recognizing flat out bullshit....not so much.

...and spare me the "making a statement about Pryor playing in the bowl game" nonsense. He has plenty of opportunity to voice those thoughts given his platform, voting on field results isn't the forum and you know it.

enigmaax;712583 wrote:Do you know who he moved above them? I assume Alabama was one of them and after they destroyed one of Ohio State's conference title buddies, there's at least some groundwork for that. Bama had also beaten Arkansas by a similar margin compared to OSU. Not saying I agree with him, but it isn't a travesty of any sorts (3 other people also had Alabama above Ohio State). Maybe the other one was LSU (three other people had LSU ahead of OSU, as well)? Again, don't necessarily agree, but they also had a sound victory in a bowl game. It isn't as though he moved up teams that lost.

queencitybuckeye;712029 wrote:I would doubt that someone would sell their house and move out of state merely because someone disagrees with their opinion. I would guess that it's more in the way (and to whom) such dissenting opinion is expressed.

enigmaax;712583 wrote:Do you know who he moved above them? I assume Alabama was one of them and after they destroyed one of Ohio State's conference title buddies, there's at least some groundwork for that. Bama had also beaten Arkansas by a similar margin compared to OSU. Not saying I agree with him, but it isn't a travesty of any sorts (3 other people also had Alabama above Ohio State). Maybe the other one was LSU (three other people had LSU ahead of OSU, as well)? Again, don't necessarily agree, but they also had a sound victory in a bowl game. It isn't as though he moved up teams that lost.