Pick6;711235 wrote:You don't think some the stuff he does or says isn't over board? He is one of the biggest critics of osu, which I think criticizing is okay to a certain point. But when you do things like move your alma mater from 7 to 9 after BEATING THE #2 TEAM FROM THE BEST CONFERENCE IN THE COUNTRY..it seems a little out of line. Usually people support the school that they attended.

Pick6;711137 wrote:what does not having to go to osu have to do with anything?

Writerbuckeye;709854 wrote:I could care less where Herbstreit decides to live -- but his misfortunes, for the most part, can be laid at his own feet.

No, I don't condone people threatening him or his family. Not ever. Those folks belong in jail or a mental ward.

But Herbstreit has always tried to play off the fan animosity toward him as being a minority of folks who don't have the intellect to know better.

When the fact is MOST Ohio State fans are pretty bright folks and understand football...and don't have a clue why he continues to say things about Ohio State, its players and program he would NEVER EVER say about any other program in college football.

No, it's not about being objective...it's about being FAIR.

When he drops another top 10 team several places after WINNING its bowl game against a favored opponent, it will be a first.

When he says another good offensive player should not go play for a certain major program because of its offensive scheme, it will be a first.

When he calls out the QB of a top 10 program and says they would be better off without him, and basically gets into a public pissing match with him, it will be a first.

All of these things he did with Ohio State (and Pryor), but has never come close to doing with any other program.

Then you factor in his silence over the last three quarters of the Alamo Bowl when the ESPN announcers were calling for JT and Andy Geiger to be fired because of all the program "violations" that were happening at OSU related to Clarret (no program violations were ever cited), and he wonders why intelligent, long-standing Ohio State fans (many of whom used to admire him as a representative of the university) want nothing more to do with him?

Again, he brought a lot of this misery (sans the crazies) on himself.

And as a resident of Columbus, I honestly could care less if he lives here. There are far better representatives of Ohio State that remain here, not the least of whom is Clark Kellogg -- someone who does the same job Herbstreit does and does it objectively, with honor, class and dignity.

centralbucksfan;709964 wrote:Bingo..we have a winner! Herbie needs to learn to have some thicker skin. If you can't take the heat..find another job.

centralbucksfan;709987 wrote:And how do you know this? YOu don't. Stop making shit up. Herbie shoulda just moved, and kept his mouth shut about any "MINOR" issues...as he even stated. Hell, this has now turned into a national story because he was running his yap. And as mentioned, Clark Kellogg and many other Buckeyes who do radio and TV such as Chris Spielman live in Cbus to this day. If it was so bad, I wonder why I saw him at OSU bball game vs Wisky yucking it up with fans and his buddies. Herbie is a primadonna.

Writerbuckeye;711245 wrote:It goes beyond that.

He says things about OSU and its players he NEVER says about any other program. He denigrates the team and players in ways he NEVER does with any other program. He moved a ranked OSU team down in the ratings after winning a BCS game -- something he has NEVER done to any other team.
That's not being objective and unbiased. That's being provocative and meant to get a reaction.

Well guess what? He got one.

Now he's pissing and moaning about it.

OneBuckeye;711415 wrote:Thank you for articulating the issues tOSU alums have with Ohio State. I am alum and I also represented Ohio State while I was in school just not in athletics. That said if I met Herbie I would treat him with respect and like a fellow buckeye.

Writerbuckeye;711705 wrote: I'm no alum

lhslep134;711746 wrote:
I'm not surprised at the harassment, but I also think any other major fanbase would say the same sort of things (that minority opinion) if there were in a identical (relative of course) situation.

lhslep134;711757 wrote:Also, I never understood the "you have to be an alumni to have an opinion argument". Okay yes, I go to OSU and I was blessed to be able to broadcast, so maybe I'll have a deeper connection to the school, but being an alumni has no bearing on either my intelligence in regards to sports or my credibility. If someone claims to be an OSU fan and attended Akron, but have proven to be knowledgeable, am I suddenly supposed to just disregard what they said because they didn't go to OSU?

That and the "you're from here so you can't root for there" argument are the 2 "arguments" that absolutely blow my mind in terms of ignorance. (I know you guys already know my feeling on fandom. The only fans I hate are true frontrunners)

2kool4skool;711787 wrote: zero real connection with.

2kool4skool;711787 wrote:No one is saying you're not intelligent if you don't go go OSU(well, sleeper might.) Just that it's really weird to get upset about an actual alumnus not properly representing a school/team that you have absolutely zero real connection with.

lhslep134;711799 wrote:What does that even mean? Is being a fan not a connection? Is being a fan not real life?

Pick6;711805 wrote:I know people who graduated there, I know people who attend there, I had a relative who played football there.I paid a lot of money to go see OSU play in the Rose Bowl in 2010 (something the majority of alumni/current students didnt do. Paid top dollar to see the football team play teams like Miami (FL) and the basketball team play the likes of Michigan State. I've also been a fan of Ohio State as long as I can remember. Just because I dont attend there, doesnt make me any less knowledgeable about what goes on.

2kool4skool;711814 wrote:Randomly choosing to root for a university

lhslep134;711826 wrote:This is where you lost me. I don't know anyone who "randomly" roots for a school. Maybe you find the team they root for to be "random" in your mind, but I'm sure they have a reason for it. Even if it was truly random, it most likely happened when they were younger and have since developed a fondness for that team that no longer makes them "random".

2kool4skool;711833 wrote: But it ventures into the creepy category when you fly off the handle about an alumnus "not properly representing" a university you don't have a direct connection to.

2kool4skool;711833 wrote: But it ventures into the creepy category when you fly off the handle about an alumnus "not properly representing" a team you don't have a direct connection to.

2kool4skool;711833 wrote: But it ventures into the creepy category when you fly off the handle about an alumnus "not properly representing" a university you don't have a direct connection to.

lhslep134;711850 wrote:Does it? Or can any logical and cognizant person make the determination of someone not properly representing something?

I can tell you that Bruce Pearl surely didn't properly represent Tennessee when he committed violations. I guess it's definitely a different issue when you're talking about a figurehead working at the school and someone who is in the media,

2kool4skool;711863 wrote:I could far better understand vitriol for him than Herbstreit.

2kool4skool;711863 wrote: No one is questioning the ability of non-OSU graduates to be rational, intelligent human beings, but there's a large group of them that have a disturbed vision of their personal stake in the team.

centralbucksfan;709987 wrote:And how do you know this? YOu don't. Stop making shit up. Herbie shoulda just moved, and kept his mouth shut about any "MINOR" issues...as he even stated. Hell, this has now turned into a national story because he was running his yap. And as mentioned, Clark Kellogg and many other Buckeyes who do radio and TV such as Chris Spielman live in Cbus to this day. If it was so bad, I wonder why I saw him at OSU bball game vs Wisky yucking it up with fans and his buddies. Herbie is a primadonna.

2kool4skool;711814 wrote:Randomly choosing to root for a university doesn't give you any real stake in how the school is portrayed, no.

2kool4skool;711787 wrote:No one is saying you're not intelligent if you don't go go OSU(well, sleeper might.) Just that it's really weird to get upset about an actual alumnus not properly representing a school/team that you have absolutely zero real connection with.