wes_mantooth;446745 wrote:Won't cripple them, but Revis may be the best in the game. Cromartie is a gambler....he gives up some big plays.

karen lotz;446815 wrote:Justin, when you say losing Revis won't cripple the defense, do you really think he and the Jets won't work something out? I'm only asking because I would be shocked. He is by far the best corner in the league. Oakland really screwed the Jets with that contract they gave.

Al Davis is a real piece of crap.

And if he takes a year off, he's still in the same deal a year from now.

justincredible;447302 wrote:If I am woody and tannenbaum, I let him sit for the next three years.

IggyPride00;447324 wrote:That sounds great and in principle I agree, but Revis at home doesn't help the team nearly as much as a bounty of good draft picks does. This is a team on the cusp of a Super Bowl possibly, so you can't just let an asset like that rot away if you have determined he will never help your team again.

wes_mantooth;446807 wrote:That is true...a good scheming can cover up some losses in the secondary. Look at the Steelers, their secondary has always been suspect at best, but with the scheming and pass rush....it never gets exposed.

Heretic;447368 wrote:I'd say it's more that the Steelers secondary doesn't get exposed IF Polamalu is healthy and on the field. You take him out of the equation and their suspect secondary suddenly gets really shaky. That's the thing that would worry me about not having Revis if I was a Jets fan -- you've suddenly removed the one most crucial element from that unit.

They never came to an agreement and Gilbert sat out the entire 1997 season.

Thirteen years later, Darrelle Revis' training-camp holdout looks similar to the one his uncle staged. Gilbert, one of the major influences in Revis' life, eventually was traded to the Panthers in 1998 for two first-round picks and signed a seven-year, $46.5 million deal.

"If you're good enough and you sit out, you're still going to make a lot of money the next year," said Casserly, then Washington's general manager. "I think that's where (Revis') mindset is: What am I risking? One million dollars? I'm still going to be paid."

Casserly admitted the team "couldn't rationalize paying" Gilbert what he wanted and slapped the franchise tag on him. Subsequent negotiations stalled as well.

"We had an open line of communication the whole time," Casserly said. "But sometimes there wasn't a lot to talk about."

Casserly, more than anyone, knows not to take anything for granted.

"At this point (in 1997), I'm figuring the guy's coming in," Casserly said. "I never thought the guy would not show up. The negotiations kept dragging on. We were stuck on our position and they were stuck on their position for a long time."

"In Sean Gilbert's case," he added, "he actually made more money by holding out for the season."

Gilbert's prominent role in Revis' life is undeniable. On the third day of the All-Pro cornerback's holdout, Rex Ryan even admitted that he was "sure" that Gilbert has advised Revis throughout this process.

"This is a real close-knit family," Schwartz told the Daily News. "Sean has helped and nurtured Darrelle's football talents."

IggyPride00;447512 wrote:I bolded the most important part, because that is exactly what Revis is hearing from Gilbert right now, and if the Jets had better decide just how important he is and make an offer accordingly.

Revis is being fined $16,523 for each day he misses, meaning he is already out $148,707. By sitting out, he also waived a clause in his contract which would have guaranteed him $20 million over the last two years of his deal.

justincredible;447563 wrote:This is why, if I were the GM and/or owner, I'd let him sit. You think he's gonna make more money after sitting out for 3 years? No chance.

And again, Al Davis is a piece of crap. Revis definitely deserves to be the highest paid DB in the league, but Asomough's contract is just absurd. Team-crippling, especially for one pushing hard for a Super Bowl like the Jets.

wes_mantooth;447567 wrote:I agree about Davis being pure garbage for the NFL, but honestly, the Jets need to pony up and pay him crazy amounts of money. In the NFL, there is always a small window for winning a championship. The Jets are right there...very close. Who knows what the CBA will bring after this season.

justincredible;447571 wrote:Right, which is why they don't want to give him a ridiculous contract. It could completely cripple the team.

NEW YORK (AP)—Jets center Nick Mangold(notes) says he will report for training camp with the rest of the team next weekend despite not having a new contract in place.

Mangold tells the NFL Network on Friday night that it wouldn’t do him any good to hold out, so “I’ll be there with bells on.”

The Jets report for training camp on Aug. 1 in Cortland, N.Y.

The All-Pro center is making $3.3 million entering the final year of his rookie deal, but is seeking a long-term contract extension. He decided to participate in minicamp despite being unhappy with the lack of negotiations.

justincredible;447586 wrote:I wish Revis would take a page out of Mangold's book. Mangold is the best center in the NFL and a HUGE reason that the run game is so good, and he definitely deserves more money, but he's putting the team ahead of himself for the time being.