LOCKED: Browns BS Drama Continued...

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:12 PM

Haha welp, I was wrong. Fuck me. 

Pretty sucky to send good talent on the D Line away to the fucking patriots of all teams for an underwhelming conditional pick in return. 

That 2015 first round, donezo. 

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
10,015 posts 56 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:20 PM
posted by BR1986FB

With the addition of Landry, I could also see Duke Johnson moved. Duke was more of a slot receiver/RB than a pure RB and Landry will likely get most of these targets.

Duke Johnson will play the Cleveland Browns role of the much like Patriot's Edelman

Crimson streak Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:20 PM

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:26 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

Agree...

.more speed, quickness than Sheldon could provided

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
29,228 posts 321 reps Joined Apr 2010
Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:31 PM

Browns just completely  undervalued Shelton.  I could have possibly been convinced on that trade if they just sent Shelton, but why include a 5th round pick?

Shelton will do well for the pats imo. He is only 24. They gave up on him way too early considering he has shown some flashes. Just another draft class we can mark as a complete failure 👍. The browns must have a record of first rounds picks that were no longer with the team before their first contract.

SportsAndLady Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 12:50 PM
posted by like_that

Browns just completely  undervalued Shelton.  I could have possibly been convinced on that trade if they just sent Shelton, but why include a 5th round pick?

Shelton will do well for the pats imo. He is only 24. They gave up on him way too early considering he has shown some flashes. Just another draft class we can mark as a complete failure 👍. The browns must have a record of first rounds picks that were no longer with the team before their first contract.

This. 

Dont give me that “Shelton didn’t fit in our defense” bullshit lol. He was a good young player that we just gave up for practically nothing. He’ll be a pro bowler in NE in two years, book it. 

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:04 PM

After reading some of the stuff on twitter I guess it makes more sense. Browns weren’t going to re-sign so you get a pick while you can. He also only played 44% of snaps last year

24,621 posts 244 reps Joined May 2010
Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:24 PM
posted by iclfan2

After reading some of the stuff on twitter I guess it makes more sense. Browns weren’t going to re-sign so you get a pick while you can. He also only played 44% of snaps last year

He was hurt a few games in there, leading to low snap %.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:32 PM
posted by Crimson streak

Shelton wasn’t a fit. So I figured it was coming. Dorsey likes his pass rushing DT’s. I don’t like the compensation for him but that’s most likely the best they could get for him 

This. I look for Dorsey to go hard after one of his guys, Dontari Poe, in FA to replace Shelton.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:38 PM
posted by iclfan2

Well there it is, but underwhelming... Shelton to the Patriots for a conditional pick

Sounds like they are just swapping two mid round picks but no details yet.

iclfan2 Reppin' the 330/216/843
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 1:41 PM
posted by BR1986FB

Sounds like they are just swapping two mid round picks but no details yet.

I saw we gave up this years 4th to get a 3rd next year

Al Bundy Senior Member
4,526 posts 40 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Mar 10, 2018 2:24 PM

Shelton was in horrible shape last year, which is a big part of why he sucked, and probably contributed to his injuries. If New England can get him to lose some weight and improve his conditioning, he has a chance to be good.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 3:55 PM

One area the Browns should improve in massively this year is in the red zone. Taylor protects the ball very well versus Deshone "How's he going to screw this up" Kizer. This in itself should equate to 3-4 wins.

I love the fact that Hue & Zampese lobbied for McCarron while Haley & Dorsey liked Taylor. For some reason I think Hue believes he's running this organization.

BR1986FB Senior Member
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Sat, Mar 10, 2018 4:00 PM
posted by SportsAndLady

 That 2015 first round, donezo. 

Just saw a stat where the Browns have no 1st round players (that they drafted) on the roster from the 2009 through 2015 drafts. Jesus...

Also saw that part of the reasoning for these trades was that there could've been concern about the Browns being snubbed in FA, after 0-16, so they traded for their guys instead.

BRF Senior Member
11,621 posts 111 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sat, Mar 10, 2018 5:46 PM

I'm remaining skeptical, but I like the trades and the direction we are going in.

vball10set paying it forward
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Sun, Mar 11, 2018 8:10 AM
posted by Belly35

#1 Josh Allen  and 4 Barkley

Depending on Joe Thomas the next picks will be offense line, line back and defense players. wide receiver will be filled in with free agent 

It'd be nice, but Barkley won't be there at 4

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
10,015 posts 56 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Mar 11, 2018 3:16 PM
posted by vball10set

It'd be nice, but Barkley won't be there at 4

Okay flip it

Barkley at one Allen four

BR1986FB Senior Member
27,923 posts 126 reps Joined Feb 2010
Sun, Mar 11, 2018 4:23 PM

Assuming Dorsey doesn't swing any more deals, a list of the guys I'd like to see them target in FA include:

Trumaine Johnson (CB-Rams)

Dontari Poe (DT-Falcons) or Star Lotulelei (DT-Panthers) or, if he gets released, Suh (DT-Dolphins). Prefer one of the first two to replace Shelton.

Adrian Clayborn (DE-Falcons)- rotate with Ogbah

Terrelle Pryor (WR-Redskins)-fight it out with Coleman for the #3. Only if he comes VERY cheap.

Any three of these guys and I'd be happy.

vball10set paying it forward
26,788 posts 121 reps Joined Nov 2009
Sun, Mar 11, 2018 7:08 PM
posted by Belly35

Okay flip it

Barkley at one Allen four

Okay by me

kizer permanente Senior Member
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Mon, Mar 12, 2018 9:11 AM

Why does anyone want Josh Allen when you just essentially traded him to the Packers? 

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