Browns BS Drama continued Part II...

He LOVES that bubble screen for no gain.

posted by Heretic

That's the Todd Haley way. Over the past couple years, he had one of the top backs in the league and a 300-pound QB, but when it came down to less than a yard to go, he'd regularly get cute with bubble screens and other slow-developing stuff instead of pounding out those six inches in the trenches and trusting that his talent and strength would be more than the opponent's. That was good for a handful of drunken meltdowns per year from me.

I've heard this from quite a few of my Steeler fan friends. Seems like a lot of Browns fans love him because we're in the honeymoon phase but I've heard that eventually sours.

He was up and down for me. Times I wanted him canned, others I was cheering for him because the offense was going off. Just know you're in for a lot of head scratcher moments.

posted by Heretic

That's the Todd Haley way. Over the past couple years, he had one of the top backs in the league and a 300-pound QB, but when it came down to less than a yard to go, he'd regularly get cute with bubble screens and other slow-developing stuff instead of pounding out those six inches in the trenches and trusting that his talent and strength would be more than the opponent's. That was good for a handful of drunken meltdowns per year from me.

posted by Automatik

He LOVES that bubble screen for no gain.

Good to know.  Overall though, I still don't get the hate from Steelers fans.  Pittsburgh's offense was never as explosive as it was under Haley. 

It's mostly the oddball call or just trying to get too cute. Great call play, great play, 3 idiotic plays for no gain, punt.

Love him or hate him, it was encouraging to hear Aikman compare this Browns team and its talent to the early Dallas teams of the 90's "right before they turned the corner"...he really seems to like this team.

posted by vball10set

Love him or hate him, it was encouraging to hear Aikman compare this Browns team and its talent to the early Dallas teams of the 90's "right before they turned the corner"...he really seems to like this team.

There was another former player on that Dallas team telling Dorsey the same thing on last Hard Knocks episode.  I forget who it was though.

posted by like_that

There was another former player on that Dallas team telling Dorsey the same thing on last Hard Knocks episode.  I forget who it was though.

Highman I think is who it was. As far as Haley, he’s already said in hard knocks that basically the preseason is to work on things. Just like in the 2nd preseason game he wanted to run the hell out of the ball. In the regular season I would bet any amount of money they would have handed the ball off to Hyde on first and probably 2nd down. It was just something to work on and the first play was so messed up you knew that same play was going to happen again on 3rd down. I have no problem with it bc who gives a shit if you win a preseason game. 

posted by Crimson streak

Highman I think is who it was. As far as Haley, he’s already said in hard knocks that basically the preseason is to work on things. Just like in the 2nd preseason game he wanted to run the hell out of the ball. In the regular season I would bet any amount of money they would have handed the ball off to Hyde on first and probably 2nd down. It was just something to work on and the first play was so messed up you knew that same play was going to happen again on 3rd down. I have no problem with it bc who gives a shit if you win a preseason game. 

I don’t buy that at all. Steelers fans for years were bitching about his play calling on short yardage plays. He then bones up a short yardage situation and were supposed to believe it was just him trying things out in preseason? No chance. I like Haley but there’s a reason Pittsburgh let him go—he’s not perfect. 

Tyrod dislocated his pinky on his left hand. Not a big deal, but still shouldn't have gone back in. And the reason Browns fan's currently like Haley is bc it isn't Hue calling plays.

posted by iclfan2

the reason Browns fan's currently like Haley is bc it isn't Hue calling plays.

100% this. I'd be fine with crowdsourcing playcalls from the opposing team's fan over Hue making the call.

From Hue - Tyrod, Ward and Randall should be fine, Avery will miss some time for a hip injury but not ruled out for opener.

Damn I liked Avery, he's flashed in the preseason as our 2nd ebst pass rusher IMO.

Okay, here’s a scenario I just heard that you can file under ‘it’s so crazy that it could happen’. Urban Meyer is so upset and disenchanted with the powers-that-be at OSU for what he perceives as being thrown under the bus, that he will coach out the season (with a vengeance, I might add), and then tell OSU hasta la vista. Meanwhile, Hue Jackson will under achieve yet again, get fired by the Browns, opening the door for...

posted by vball10set

Okay, here’s a scenario I just heard that you can file under ‘it’s so crazy that it could happen’. Urban Meyer is so upset and disenchanted with the powers-that-be at OSU for what he perceives as being thrown under the bus, that he will coach out the season (with a vengeance, I might add), and then tell OSU hasta la vista. Meanwhile, Hue Jackson will under achieve yet again, get fired by the Browns, opening the door for...

Bill Cowher who just bought a house in Cleveland?

posted by vball10set

Okay, here’s a scenario I just heard that you can file under ‘it’s so crazy that it could happen’. Urban Meyer is so upset and disenchanted with the powers-that-be at OSU for what he perceives as being thrown under the bus, that he will coach out the season (with a vengeance, I might add), and then tell OSU hasta la vista. Meanwhile, Hue Jackson will under achieve yet again, get fired by the Browns, opening the door for...

lol.

posted by like_that

lol.

This, no thanks.

posted by Commander of Awesome

This, no thanks.

Bullshit, you’d take him in a heartbeat 

So he can join Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier and all the other high-level college coaches who moved to the NFL and had endless success?

posted by Heretic

So he can join Nick Saban, Steve Spurrier and all the other high-level college coaches who moved to the NFL and had endless success?

I wouldn't want him either.