Protests, Riots, Police trashiness cont.

My point is if you don’t agree with the protests just say it. 

don’t say..

I agree with the protests if only........ ( insert random article of the day that actually refuted that you agree with the protests flag, block highway, nearby murder, Chicago, black on black crime ect )

I don’t agree with (insert unarmed black person) getting killed then immediately post random article of the day insinuating the reasons he deserved to die ( criminal record, on drugs, ect)

I agree with blm movement if only they would protest this way.. (then never provide a way to protest you can agree with)

Just be honest with what u want to say don’t be fake outraged about a girl dying and hide behind it to make your point. If you have an opinion about blm movement or race relations just give it. 

Fun fact black people are actually outraged when this happens. You may not hear about it because you don’t know any black people. Which doesn’t make you racist or a bad person. 

posted by geeblock

My point is if you don’t agree with the protests just say it. 

don’t say..

I agree with the protests if only........ ( insert random article of the day that actually refuted that you agree with the protests flag, block highway, nearby murder, Chicago, black on black crime ect )

I don’t agree with (insert unarmed black person) getting killed then immediately post random article of the day insinuating the reasons he deserved to die ( criminal record, on drugs, ect)

I agree with blm movement if only they would protest this way.. (then never provide a way to protest you can agree with)

Just be honest with what u want to say don’t be fake outraged about a girl dying and hide behind it to make your point. If you have an opinion about blm movement or race relations just give it. 

Fun fact black people are actually outraged when this happens. You may not hear about it because you don’t know any black people. Which doesn’t make you racist or a bad person. 

I take it you read a lot of twitter? 

posted by geeblock

My point is if you don’t agree with the protests just say it. 

don’t say..

I agree with the protests if only........ ( insert random article of the day that actually refuted that you agree with the protests flag, block highway, nearby murder, Chicago, black on black crime ect )

I don’t agree with (insert unarmed black person) getting killed then immediately post random article of the day insinuating the reasons he deserved to die ( criminal record, on drugs, ect)

I agree with blm movement if only they would protest this way.. (then never provide a way to protest you can agree with)

Just be honest with what u want to say don’t be fake outraged about a girl dying and hide behind it to make your point. If you have an opinion about blm movement or race relations just give it. 

Fun fact black people are actually outraged when this happens. You may not hear about it because you don’t know any black people. Which doesn’t make you racist or a bad person. 

No you dont hear about it because it doesnt fit the Democratic mayors and medias narrative of what is actually going on.

posted by geeblock

My point is if you don’t agree with the protests just say it. 

don’t say..

I agree with the protests if only........ ( insert random article of the day that actually refuted that you agree with the protests flag, block highway, nearby murder, Chicago, black on black crime ect )

I don’t agree with (insert unarmed black person) getting killed then immediately post random article of the day insinuating the reasons he deserved to die ( criminal record, on drugs, ect)

I agree with blm movement if only they would protest this way.. (then never provide a way to protest you can agree with)

Just be honest with what u want to say don’t be fake outraged about a girl dying and hide behind it to make your point. If you have an opinion about blm movement or race relations just give it. 

Fun fact black people are actually outraged when this happens. You may not hear about it because you don’t know any black people. Which doesn’t make you racist or a bad person. 

You are painting it as all black and white (not race) or you have to be 100% for or against everything about something.

The real world isn't like this. I have yet to see a single politician that I agree with 100% of the time, or any that I disagree with 100% of the time. 

One can say they are for the saying/believe that black lives matter (absolutely they do) and one can say that they agree with peaceful protests about the murder of Floyd...all while saying they don't agree with the violent riots that have been going on.

Disagreeing with violent riots does not immediately make someone racist which is the broad brush you are painting. 

Sorry, one can be against violence period. Meaning Floyd being murdered is wrong, but so is burning down the city in protest. See the distinction? Absolutely protest, and to be honest I would have attended one of the local protests myself if I didn't have a weird feeling things would turn violent (which they did). 

The world isn't such a dichotomy, black or white, 0% or 100%, 0 or 1, etc. Most everyone lives in the "grey" areas in between. 

I have yet to find ANYONE that defended the police murder of Floyd. I have yet to find anyone who was even against the peaceful protests. I do know a bunch of people that are against the violent riots that came after.

Sorry geeblock, but breaking down people's gates to their community, blocking traffic while people are going to work, burning down a Wendy's/police precinct/etc, looting and rioting, etc is just plain wrong and I can't believe you are defending any of that.

Chris Cuomo on CNN made the mistake one day of saying "where does it say that protests have to be peaceful?". It literally says it right in the freaking Constitution. Amendment 1"Congress shall make no law...prohibiting...the right of the people PEACEABLY to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

What i see is someone who can easily deduce a few bad apples in the police dept but doesn’t let that stop him from supporting the police, but then  not applying that same logic to protesters/blm movement/black people

Never said anyone was racist

The mayor of Atlanta just went on CNN and blamed Trump for the 8 year old girls murder.

You can't make this stuff up.

Geeblock, see, this is why people, like iclfan and myself, agree with the sentiment of BLM, but not with the actual organization.

I mean really, is there any defense of crap like this?

https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-blm-protestors-storm-church-service-assault-worshippers

https://www.themix.net/2020/07/video-shows-blm-threaten-families-entering-church-heres-why-theyre-harassing-grace-baptist/

I honestly think there's a movement in the radical left to hijack BLM, not unlike the religious right did with the Tea Party.

posted by jmog

Geeblock, see, this is why people, like iclfan and myself, agree with the sentiment of BLM, but not with the actual organization.

I mean really, is there any defense of crap like this?

https://thepostmillennial.com/watch-blm-protestors-storm-church-service-assault-worshippers

https://www.themix.net/2020/07/video-shows-blm-threaten-families-entering-church-heres-why-theyre-harassing-grace-baptist/

I don’t need you to like the “organization” just the “movement” or sentiment. There are a few bad apples in every group right? Not fair to condemn a movement for a few idiots. Most people like my fiancé have no idea the organization exists or that the 3 women founders  are Marxist’s or whatever. That’s not important. She has went to some protests and also stood up to some people in her family and it is important to  her. 

I also believe that there  are those out there looking to sabatoge the movement. 

I think this is terrible to disrupt a church and I have been tagged in this video on twitter and Facebook with friends taking victory laps to denounce blm so it is even more upsetting to me. Total distraction from the movement and perfect tip dunk for racists 

posted by geeblock

I don’t need you to like the “organization” just the “movement” or sentiment. There are a few bad apples in every group right? Not fair to condemn a movement for a few idiots. Most people like my fiancé have no idea the organization exists or that the 3 women founders  are Marxist’s or whatever. That’s not important. She has went to some protests and also stood up to some people in her family and it is important to  her. 

I also believe that there  are those out there looking to sabatoge the movement. 

I think this is terrible to disrupt a church and I have been tagged in this video on twitter and Facebook with friends taking victory laps to denounce blm so it is even more upsetting to me. Total distraction from the movement and perfect tip dunk for racists 

1. In the actual organization it isn’t really a “few” bad apples anymore is it? I mean the originators are Marxists, and all the recent riots/etc  it really isn’t just a “few” anymore.

2. Have you  noticed that every time  some video like this comes up you immediately jump to “well the racists will use this..” How about people that can just see through the bull shit that is BLM organization will “use this” as more evidence. Just because people see what is going on in the BLM organization and call them/it out doesn’t mean they are racists but yet you keep using that phrase. You state it like “racists will use this” to avoid actually calling anyone in the thread racist.  You shouldn’t beat around the bush, call people what you think they are.

posted by jmog

1. In the actual organization it isn’t really a “few” bad apples anymore is it? I mean the originators are Marxists, and all the recent riots/etc  it really isn’t just a “few” anymore.

2. Have you  noticed that every time  some video like this comes up you immediately jump to “well the racists will use this..” How about people that can just see through the bull shit that is BLM organization will “use this” as more evidence. Just because people see what is going on in the BLM organization and call them/it out doesn’t mean they are racists but yet you keep using that phrase. You state it like “racists will use this” to avoid actually calling anyone in the thread racist.  You shouldn’t beat around the bush, call people what you think they are.

Not talking about people here. Talking about comment sections on twitter/Facebook. For me I can easily separate the movement from the organization. I don’t think they own this whole movement that is happening even though they started it. It’s much more loosely organized in my opinion. 

posted by geeblock

Not talking about people here. Talking about comment sections on twitter/Facebook. For me I can easily separate the movement from the organization. I don’t think they own this whole movement that is happening even though they started it. It’s much more loosely organized in my opinion. 

Are you ok with protests that turn violent (rioting, looting, breaking down/through private gates, blocking highways, etc)? Or should they remain peaceful?

posted by jmog

Are you ok with protests that turn violent (rioting, looting, breaking down/through private gates, blocking highways, etc)? Or should they remain peaceful?

They should remain peaceful as the vast majority are. I went to three and all were peaceful for many hours. I think the protests easily get hi jacked and then BLM gets the blame. The police didn’t help either.  99% of the people want to protest peacefully. They peacefully protested all around Columbus without issue. Westerville, Powell, Delaware.  It was very uplifting and powerful honestly. The only one that got violent was downtown col

The protest I went to downtown at least 5 speakers got on the megaphone and begged people to remain peaceful and went in depth on the harm it does when you don’t. No one who organized the march advocated riot or looting 

posted by geeblock

Not talking about people here. Talking about comment sections on twitter/Facebook. For me I can easily separate the movement from the organization. I don’t think they own this whole movement that is happening even though they started it. It’s much more loosely organized in my opinion. 

Your first mistake was reading/caring about Twitter and Facebook comments.

posted by friendfromlowry

Your first mistake was reading/caring about Twitter and Facebook comments.

I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t bother me sometimes. 

posted by geeblock

I’d be lying if I said it doesn’t bother me sometimes. 

That's why I asked if you read a lot of twitter.  Your post read like the cesspool of arguments you see on twitter. 

This is probably for another thread, but social media has done more harm to this country than good.  I think if/when studies are done, we will see a direct correlation between social media consumption and the rising depression/suicide rate in this country.

Even if you (you in general) are generally stable, reading that shit can get to you.   That is why I told you specifically before to get out more and quit reading consuming that shit.  I think the entire country would benefit from it.  Just go out and live life.  It's really not that bad. 

posted by gut

I honestly think there's a movement in the radical left to hijack BLM, not unlike the religious right did with the Tea Party.

The organization definitely has been hijacked.  They already have leaders promoting themselves as marxists.  I would be lying if I knew about their mission statement, before Marcellus Riley's rant (link below) , but just read it.  I have however, brought up the two parent household rate for African American families and it is very low.  So, how does this statement help black people? 

"We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.  We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."

A two parent household can solve many issues.  Just look at the two parent household rate for each demographic and match it to the median household income in the US by demographic.   I am not sure how attacking the nuclear family structure and replacing it with "villages" (aka marxism) is going to help black families.  BTW, this is also becoming a white problem.  The two parent household rate is dropping in white households and we are starting to see more whites in poverty, because of it. 

.@MarcellusWiley breaks down why the NBA’s plan to paint ‘Black Lives Matter’ on courts is a bad idea. pic.twitter.com/EoCJNf7ho1

— Speak For Yourself (@SFY) June 30, 2020

posted by geeblock

They should remain peaceful as the vast majority are. I went to three and all were peaceful for many hours. I think the protests easily get hi jacked and then BLM gets the blame. The police didn’t help either.  99% of the people want to protest peacefully. They peacefully protested all around Columbus without issue. Westerville, Powell, Delaware.  It was very uplifting and powerful honestly. The only one that got violent was downtown col

1. I agree the majority are, but its definitely not like 99% of the protests stay peaceful, it maybe more like 60-70%, which is not good to be honest.

2. I also agree that it is being hijacked. The BLM organization is being hijacked by Marxists and many of the protests are being hijacked by Antifa and turning violent because of it. Antifa is a terrorist organization and is slowly trying to turn BLM into the same.