Passport application

FatHobbit Senior Member
9,058 posts 68 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Sep 4, 2018 4:24 PM

I sent my old passport (still current) in with my passport renewal application. Today I received a rejection letter saying they needed my old passport. I have no way to prove I sent it. Anyone ever have that problem? 


QuakerOats Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 4, 2018 4:30 PM

 

Imagine what they would do with your healthcare and insurance.

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Sep 4, 2018 4:39 PM

That's shitty. I've never heard of that happening before. 

I'd just try to escalate anyway you can and speak with someone directly. Worst case is you'd have to claim your original passport was lost/stolen and pay the $150 for a new one.

FatHobbit Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 4, 2018 4:47 PM
posted by Automatik

That's shitty. I've never heard of that happening before. 

I'd just try to escalate anyway you can and speak with someone directly. Worst case is you'd have to claim your original passport was lost/stolen and pay the $150 for a new one.

That is exactly what happened... 

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Sep 4, 2018 4:54 PM

So you had to pay the renewal fee AND replacement fee due to their fuckup? I'd get someone on the phone and flip out. 

like_that 1st Team All-PWN
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Tue, Sep 4, 2018 5:10 PM

This is why you send the passport via certified mailing.  I believe they even reccommend that. 

BRF Senior Member
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Tue, Sep 4, 2018 5:58 PM
posted by like_that

This is why you send the passport via certified mailing.  

Yes. Never send anything of value like that without it having to be signed for or, at the very least, tracking. It is well worth the extra postage and peace of mind. 

FatHobbit Senior Member
9,058 posts 68 reps Joined Nov 2009
Tue, Sep 4, 2018 9:08 PM

Even if I sent it certified, would that prove they recieved the passport? They sent back my application and check, but no passport. Short of making a video when I sent it, I'm not sure how I prove I sent the passport. 

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 5, 2018 9:23 AM

Yeah, it's a fuck up on their end. You might be screwed.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 10:18 AM
posted by like_that

This is why you send the passport via certified mailing.  I believe they even reccommend that. 

Good advice.  Wish I would have thought of that before I sent mine in...

Although, that doesn't protect you from them losing it after the fact.

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 10:22 AM
posted by FatHobbit

Even if I sent it certified, would that prove they recieved the passport? They sent back my application and check, but no passport. Short of making a video when I sent it, I'm not sure how I prove I sent the passport. 

Nothing you can do.  They received your app but lost the passport.  You're not going to brow-beat them into giving you a pass like you might with a company, because you're dealing with Homeland Security.

LOL, I think I'd just eat the extra $60 because you don't need to piss-off a govt employee that hates their job....and find yourself on a no-fly list!

wildcats20 In ROY I Trust!!
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 12:01 PM
posted by FatHobbit

Even if I sent it certified, would that prove they recieved the passport? They sent back my application and check, but no passport. Short of making a video when I sent it, I'm not sure how I prove I sent the passport. 

Certified mail has to be signed for, so yes it proves they received it. 

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 5, 2018 12:13 PM

You send the passport in the same envelope as the application. They said they got the check and app, no passport. They either fucked up on their end. Or it was taken from the envelope during transit.

gut Senior Member
18,369 posts 115 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 5, 2018 12:15 PM
posted by wildcats20

Certified mail has to be signed for, so yes it proves they received it. 

It proves they received his application, which doesn't appear to be the issue.  It DOES NOT prove he included his old passport with the application.

Doesn't appear to be any way to avoid what happened here.  Expedited processing might be better, but you pay more money.  The rush jobs thru 3rd parties are even MORE money.

Belly35 Elderly Intellectual
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 2:10 PM

Most local Post Office has a Passport Area that you can schedule a meeting to renew your passport..

MontyBrunswick Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 3:48 PM
posted by Belly35

Most local Post Office has a Passport Area that you can schedule a meeting to renew your passport..

really helpful for OP thanks for posting 

Automatik Senior Member
15,737 posts 98 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 5, 2018 3:51 PM

I believe he's referring to a photo appointment. As always Belly, we thank you!

33,369 posts 132 reps Joined Nov 2009
Wed, Sep 5, 2018 4:15 PM

I think you can send the application and passport separate, no? That would be the key to certified mail route.

Sucks for you, as I’ve never heard of that happening. Never had an issue with my previous 2 renewals (or original).

gut Senior Member
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Wed, Sep 5, 2018 5:10 PM
posted by Laley23

I think you can send the application and passport separate, no? That would be the key to certified mail route.

No way to prove what was in that envelope was your passport.  Even video taping from sealing the envelope to dropping it in the box probably wouldn't fly.

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