like_that;1873453 wrote:Their QB ratings do make me o_O sometimes, but that’s because TDs/INT ratio, moving the chains, and leading teams to wins are more important to us when it comes to QBs. They are graded on every play, and none of us are truly going to give a fuck about that one good play the QB made, because he threw the ball out of bounds. Coming up with a rating system for the QB position isn’t easy and will always be criticized (I.e qb rating and qbr). There are a lot of variables that play into what we all could consider a good performance for a QB.

I can understand the criticism for their QB ratings, but if that is your entire argument against PFF, it is weak at best. It’s a very good tool for grading every other position. They watch every play and they have a lot of football guys (the British guy isn’t the only guy grading them) grading out the plays. They average out everyone’s grades, so it’s not like they have one guy per team grading out the games. This is the same grading system that many NFL, college, and even high school teams to a lower extent use. The teams that don’t use the same grading system, use something very similar.

Come on BR, you played football. Your coaches didn’t grade you out every week? There were plenty of times where I thought I had good games (made some good/important plays) and then I would come in for film session to get my ass chewed out with my average grade.

Laley23;1873466 wrote:Those guys watch every snap, from the All-22 camera, and the watch every snap upwards of 10 times. They literally grade out what every position for what the play call was designed to do.

Lots of coaches have called them out similar to you, then go to the facility and watch them grade a game and are blown away by their knowledge and ability. 31/32 teams employ them I believe, and that's because those coaches have gone in and watched and come away extremely impressed. If it's good enough for almost all the teams/coaches in the NFL, I'm pretty sure I'm taking their grading system to heart.

like_that;1873472 wrote:That's legit. I remember a couple years ago it was about 20/32 teams, so obviously the rest of the league has caught on.

Also, not sure if it is NBC or ESPN, but when they do the player introductions, they now display their PFF grade.

GOONx19;1873438 wrote:Who was the poster that loved the Heat and thought the eyeball test was the most important stat in basketball?

Commander of Awesome;1873496 wrote:Pretty much the only argument against PFF is "I don't like it!". Tired and stupid debate.

Laley23;1873466 wrote:Those guys watch every snap, from the All-22 camera, and the watch every snap upwards of 10 times. They literally grade out what every position for what the play call was designed to do.

Lots of coaches have called them out similar to you, then go to the facility and watch them grade a game and are blown away by their knowledge and ability. 31/32 teams employ them I believe, and that's because those coaches have gone in and watched and come away extremely impressed. If it's good enough for almost all the teams/coaches in the NFL, I'm pretty sure I'm taking their grading system to heart.