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Jul 11, 2016 12:58 PM
IMO, it's fine to pull over a POS car. Especially if that car has something that is a potential inspection violation. No, that isn't an offense you can give a citation for unless it's an expired tag or registration, but it's certainly cause to pull someone over. Same with seeing someone holding their phone.

Put 2 and 2 together. If you pull over every POS vehicle in a poor part of any major city, chances are you find many, many potential offenses you can issue citations for and potentially make arrests. This is EXACTLY what street patrol is for. And while that might sound prejudiced, it isn't. It doesn't differentiate between any given race.

However, it does correlate with criminals. Newsflash. What areas do the most criminals reside and the most criminal activity take place? The same poor economic areas where you will find the POS vehicles you're pulling over.

Is that profiling? If so, it should be a regular practice.
Jul 11, 2016 12:58pm
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Jul 11, 2016 1:07 PM
Al Bundy;1803026 wrote:Obama has the opportunity to encourage blm to take on useful tasks instead of blocking highways and causing other problems, and he never does that. If they spent the weekend marching through the south side of Chicago, maybe lives would be saved in those neighborhoods. They could educate people on how to behave when interacting with police, but that is never done.
...he must have forgotten his roots as a "community organizer"
Jul 11, 2016 1:07pm
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Jul 11, 2016 2:21 PM
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/
“Every societal failure, we put it off on the cops to solve” said Brown. He listed mental health, drug addiction, loose dogs, failing schools as problems the public expects ‘cops to solve.’
“Seventy percent of the African American community is being raised by single women, let’s give it to the cops to solve that as well” said Brown. “Policing was never meant to solve all those problems.”
This does not fit the narrative so it will fall on deaf ears. The guy is probably an Uncle Tom for saying it. Last fall when the Cleveland Police Chief was upset about a few young children that died in a short span by stray gunfire coming from black on black gang violence I read some of the comments under that article and many were viscous towards the Chief.
Jul 11, 2016 2:21pm
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Jul 11, 2016 3:07 PM
Lack of personal responsibility

Lack of conscience formation

Lack of respect for authority

Lack of good dads

Lack of leadership from the first black president

Sad, sad litany
Jul 11, 2016 3:07pm
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Jul 11, 2016 3:31 PM
The sad thing is when cops are left with no other alternative because no one is going to deal with the root causes of the problem they will decrease their patrols and limit confrontation in an effort to avoid negative media attention and meddling by the DOJ. End result: More black people will die, crime will go up, and the media will be silent.
Jul 11, 2016 3:31pm
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Jul 11, 2016 3:43 PM
majorspark;1803067 wrote:The sad thing is when cops are left with no other alternative because no one is going to deal with the root causes of the problem they will decrease their patrols and limit confrontation in an effort to avoid negative media attention and meddling by the DOJ. End result: More black people will die, crime will go up, and the media will be silent.
There's already a name for it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferguson_effect
Jul 11, 2016 3:43pm
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Jul 13, 2016 9:37 AM
The Browns' running back makes an egregious mistake with his instagram posting. I am glad the Cleveland police chief gave him an ultimatum; it would be quite interesting to see him pull the security from the Browns' games this season.
Jul 13, 2016 9:37am
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Jul 13, 2016 10:11 AM
queencitybuckeye;1802986 wrote:Tens of thousands of people attempt to buy guns at gun stores and lie on the form that one must fill out. This is a crime, and with rare exception, not their first. Of those, the number of prosecutions is in the low hundreds.
This is a good idea and I have not heard one politician talk about it.
Jul 13, 2016 10:11am
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Jul 13, 2016 10:23 AM
Belly35;1802908 wrote:Obama make the play for gun control from a trouble situation and the Black Liberal leadership follow like sheep.
Black murder Blacks everyday, children killed and wounded in gang violent with known neighborhood felons with illegal weapons in niegborhood aided in government programs and not one black lives matter riot protesting for justice, no Black sniper taking aim on gang members and not one Black politican demanding control of Black felon epidemic...... Why is that?

why is there no White riot, protest and sniper on roof top at the police shooting of white trailer park? why is that?

Until this question is answered?

Shut the fuck up about gun control.... Sorry

when you can answer why the different between the actions and what is the cause / reasoning .... Guns are not the problem.


the two situation is not about gun control you assholes .. That an agenda not a solution..
You're avoiding the problem and diverting the real issues ...

answer why blacks react and whites don't.....?
Do you think it is a problem that a radical black activist can easily obtain a firearm w/ no accountability whatsoever, minimal hoops, no due diligence or any sort of "know your customer" rules and snipe innocent white cops? Is that what the second amendment guarantees? Is that what George Washington was thinking when he crushed the Whiskey Rebellion and took their guns?

Need a license to hunt deer but not humans in this country. Insanity, but whatever.
Jul 13, 2016 10:23am
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Jul 13, 2016 10:27 AM
majorspark;1803060 wrote:http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/07/11/dallas-police-chief-were-asking-cops-to-do-too-much-in-this-country/



This does not fit the narrative so it will fall on deaf ears. The guy is probably an Uncle Tom for saying it. Last fall when the Cleveland Police Chief was upset about a few young children that died in a short span by stray gunfire coming from black on black gang violence I read some of the comments under that article and many were viscous towards the Chief.
Cleveland.com comments....the bowels of the internet.
Jul 13, 2016 10:27am
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Jul 13, 2016 10:40 AM
queencitybuckeye;1802929 wrote:The hay's way out of that barn unless you basically want to claim the Bill of Rights as a failure. Any solutions need be based on the facts that there are guns, hundreds of millions of them.

Need to look at the bad guys, not the tools.
I agree. A bank can't just hold up its hands and claim innocence if they let terrorists and criminals finance their operations without any due diligence. IMHO there has to be,more accountability from the industry.

This dishonorably discharged cop killer not only got a gun no questions asked, he got body armor and tactical weapons training on how to shoot on the move.

A whole marketplace setup to be an efficient cop killer and no questions asked.
Jul 13, 2016 10:40am
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Jul 13, 2016 10:50 AM
BoatShoes;1803171 wrote:This is a good idea and I have not heard one politician talk about it.
You mean like Hillary Clinton ...............most of the applicants probably went to her tutorial on lying.
Jul 13, 2016 10:50am
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Jul 13, 2016 11:58 AM
I see where the President is going to have some special on this with Jamele Hill from ESPN as well? Whitlock busy that night or could have had a tri fecta.....
Jul 13, 2016 11:58am
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Jul 13, 2016 12:10 PM
thavoice;1803188 wrote:I see where the President is going to have some special on this with Jamele Hill from ESPN as well? Whitlock busy that night or could have had a tri fecta.....
Isn't Whitlock pretty neutral on race issues, or am I thinking of someone else? Hill is a clown. The fact that Obama is doing a town hall on policing and race is stupid. The stats and research point to there not being a bias in policing, but please let's keep pushing the narrative. Oh and we still don't know all of the facts in either case yet.
Jul 13, 2016 12:10pm
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Jul 13, 2016 12:13 PM
thavoice;1803188 wrote:I see where the President is going to have some special on this with Jamele Hill from ESPN as well? Whitlock busy that night or could have had a tri fecta.....
Jemelle Smith probably had the orgasm of her life when approached about it. Her and Michael Smith (Whitlock Jr.) are obnoxious.
Jul 13, 2016 12:13pm
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Jul 13, 2016 12:24 PM
iclfan2;1803190 wrote:Isn't Whitlock pretty neutral on race issues, or am I thinking of someone else? Hill is a clown. The fact that Obama is doing a town hall on policing and race is stupid. The stats and research point to there not being a bias in policing, but please let's keep pushing the narrative. Oh and we still don't know all of the facts in either case yet.
From what I've read, Whitlock more or less blames black people for their problems in the laziest way possible (ie: you listen to that music and wear your hair like that and what do you expect? sort of stuff). Which is probably why he's a senior member of the HOT TAEK circuit.
Jul 13, 2016 12:24pm
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Jul 13, 2016 12:41 PM
iclfan2;1803190 wrote:Isn't Whitlock pretty neutral on race issues, or am I thinking of someone else? Hill is a clown. The fact that Obama is doing a town hall on policing and race is stupid. The stats and research point to there not being a bias in policing, but please let's keep pushing the narrative. Oh and we still don't know all of the facts in either case yet.
I may watch for the lulz. I can't really see Obama and Hill in a room together discussing race issues so I imagine it could be pretty entertaining.

Also facts don't matter. This is a witch hunt and not about justice in either case.
Jul 13, 2016 12:41pm
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Jul 13, 2016 12:58 PM
sleeper;1803196 wrote:Also facts don't matter. This is a witch hunt and not about justice in either case.
Yea, he also had this brilliant quote "We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than to get his hands on a computer or even a book." How on earth can a president speak so carelessly, with nothing close to facts, just hyperbole.
Jul 13, 2016 12:58pm
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Jul 13, 2016 1:27 PM
iclfan2;1803200 wrote:Yea, he also had this brilliant quote "We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than to get his hands on a computer or even a book." How on earth can a president speak so carelessly, with nothing close to facts, just hyperbole.
Explains Trump too.

Facts don't matter. People hearing what they want to hear matters.
Jul 13, 2016 1:27pm
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Jul 13, 2016 1:54 PM
Maybe I am thinking the wrong guy but there was one that would make everything into race.
iclfan2;1803190 wrote:Isn't Whitlock pretty neutral on race issues, or am I thinking of someone else? Hill is a clown. The fact that Obama is doing a town hall on policing and race is stupid. The stats and research point to there not being a bias in policing, but please let's keep pushing the narrative. Oh and we still don't know all of the facts in either case yet.
Jul 13, 2016 1:54pm
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Jul 13, 2016 2:13 PM
iclfan2;1803200 wrote:Yea, he also had this brilliant quote "We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than to get his hands on a computer or even a book." How on earth can a president speak so carelessly, with nothing close to facts, just hyperbole.

Because he is not a president; he is a community activist/agitator.
Jul 13, 2016 2:13pm
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Jul 13, 2016 2:49 PM
iclfan2;1803200 wrote:Yea, he also had this brilliant quote "We flood communities with so many guns that it is easier for a teenager to buy a Glock than to get his hands on a computer or even a book." How on earth can a president speak so carelessly, with nothing close to facts, just hyperbole.
And at a memorial service. The man has no shame.
Jul 13, 2016 2:49pm