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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 10:19am
And whether you want to believe it or not, it IS possible for OSU to not do something to perfection.centralbucksfan;1567032 wrote:Luckily? It wasn't luck. As I said, OSU/Meyer are always going to be able to bring in quality asst. coaches. Just as UM is able to. There are a handful of schools able to do this.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 14, 2014 10:29am
lol.. "Read into it way too much bro"
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 14, 2014 10:49am
Oh please. Give me a break. Just stating the obvious. With OSU now paying their asst. coaches on par with some of the SEC schools, Meyer leading the program, and it being OSU, they are always going to attract the top asst. coaches. Like it or not, that is the reality of where this program is at now.WebFire;1567048 wrote:And whether you want to believe it or not, it IS possible for OSU to not do something to perfection.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 11:01am
My point is not that they won't try and get the best. But to just think they could never make a hire that doesn't pan out is ignorance. It happens all the time, at all schools. So many variables.centralbucksfan;1567059 wrote:Oh please. Give me a break. Just stating the obvious. With OSU now paying their asst. coaches on par with some of the SEC schools, Meyer leading the program, and it being OSU, they are always going to attract the top asst. coaches. Like it or not, that is the reality of where this program is at now.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 14, 2014 11:03am
Where did anyone say OSU could never make a hire that won't pan out?
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 11:10am
Yours and CBF's comments make it quite clear.Automatik;1567063 wrote:Where did anyone say OSU could never make a hire that won't pan out?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 14, 2014 11:12am
I don't disagree with this. It does happen. No question. But this seems like a no brain hire. The guy has a proven track record. We aren't talking about a lead coordinator here. He is a position coach. One with a ton of experience, great rep, great recruiter, and respected. Not sure how this one wouldn't pan out. But I see your point.WebFire;1567061 wrote:My point is not that they won't try and get the best. But to just think they could never make a hire that doesn't pan out is ignorance. It happens all the time, at all schools. So many variables.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 14, 2014 11:14am
Being confident OSU will make a good hire = saying they can never fail?
Wrong.
I guess I'm a half full type of guy.
Wrong.
I guess I'm a half full type of guy.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 11:29am
No no. The hire is a great one. I'm talking about the comments put forth that no one should ever be worried because OSU will always get the best.centralbucksfan;1567067 wrote:I don't disagree with this. It does happen. No question. But this seems like a no brain hire. The guy has a proven track record. We aren't talking about a lead coordinator here. He is a position coach. One with a ton of experience, great rep, great recruiter, and respected. Not sure how this one wouldn't pan out. But I see your point.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 11:30am
Nothing wrong with that. OSU is in a good place where that is more likely than not.Automatik;1567070 wrote:Being confident OSU will make a good hire = saying they can never fail?
Wrong.
I guess I'm a half full type of guy.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Jan 14, 2014 11:31am
And to debunk your theory even further. If I don't see some improvement in our secondary in terms of basic fundamentals, that white haired lunatic Coombs can take a hike also. 
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Jan 14, 2014 12:17pm
So Chris Ash is Co-Defense Coordinator and Secondary Coach. Where does that leave Coombs?Automatik;1567077 wrote:And to debunk your theory even further. If I don't see some improvement in our secondary in terms of basic fundamentals, that white haired lunatic Coombs can take a hike also.
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 14, 2014 12:18pm
Probably special teamsJawbreaker;1567080 wrote:So Chris Ash is Co-Defense Coordinator and Secondary Coach. Where does that leave Coombs?
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 14, 2014 12:38pm
Sounds like another great pickup with Ash! I bet that didn't go over well with Bielema! ha.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140114/ohio-state-hires-chris-ash-defensive-coordinator-larry-johnson/?eref=sihp
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-football/news/20140114/ohio-state-hires-chris-ash-defensive-coordinator-larry-johnson/?eref=sihp
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 14, 2014 12:39pm
Jawbreaker;1567080 wrote:So Chris Ash is Co-Defense Coordinator and Secondary Coach. Where does that leave Coombs?
In case some weren't aware of this...
http://www.elevenwarriors.com/2014/01/32327/report-ohio-state-arkansas-ash-as-co-defensive-coordinator-finalizes-deal-with-larry-j#more
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 14, 2014 12:40pm
From what I understood...Withers was the co-defensive coordinator. But was also in charge of secondary/pass defense. Fickell had dline/LB. Thus I am willing to give him a pass currently, and another year to show if he is capable of running the defense.Jawbreaker;1567080 wrote:So Chris Ash is Co-Defense Coordinator and Secondary Coach. Where does that leave Coombs?
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 14, 2014 12:57pm
I'd guess coombs is safety coach.
Two great hires!!!
Two great hires!!!
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 14, 2014 1:37pm
Isn't Coombs the CB coach?
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 14, 2014 1:43pm
Right now, yesse-alum;1567122 wrote:Isn't Coombs the CB coach?
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 14, 2014 2:12pm
Yes. I doubt he moves to safties coach.se-alum;1567122 wrote:Isn't Coombs the CB coach?
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 14, 2014 2:14pm
Yea, I assume he remains with CB's.LJ;1567133 wrote:Yes. I doubt he moves to safties coach.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 14, 2014 3:03pm
Yea sounds like ash will call plays and coach safeties and coombs stays with corners.
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wkfan
Posts: 1,641
Jan 15, 2014 8:34am
I am very excited about both of these hires.
I'm hoping that Johnson will continue the tradition of great DL's from his days at Penn State. I think he has alot to work with. Losing Vrabel is costly, but Johnson has a solid rep as a coach, including more experience than Vrabel and an equally solid rep as a recruiter.
Ash is a Big 10 vet and, hopefully will be a step up from Withers and run a more aggressive defense from a secondary perspective.
I'm stoked to see what these guys can do with the talent that they have.
I'm hoping that Johnson will continue the tradition of great DL's from his days at Penn State. I think he has alot to work with. Losing Vrabel is costly, but Johnson has a solid rep as a coach, including more experience than Vrabel and an equally solid rep as a recruiter.
Ash is a Big 10 vet and, hopefully will be a step up from Withers and run a more aggressive defense from a secondary perspective.
I'm stoked to see what these guys can do with the talent that they have.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 16, 2014 12:05pm
On top of Johnson being the Dline coach, he was also given the title of ass. head coach.
Ha ha LJ! Make that asst. head coach!
Ha ha LJ! Make that asst. head coach!
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 16, 2014 12:38pm
I wanna be the Ass Head Coach