
LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:21pm
Doubtful. Vrabel is the one guy you would want to keep.se-alum;1565229 wrote:Writing on the wall for Fickell?

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:26pm
I'm very "mad". The DL was the bright spot this year with an extremely young unit. Vrabel was also an all star recruiter and the guys he was lead on for the 2014 are posting things like "this may change things" on TwitterAutomatik;1565230 wrote:Not mad at all.
Take Fick and Coombs too.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2014 6:29pm
FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULJ;1565228 wrote:NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO(Vrabel gone)
http://www.610wtvn.com/pages/wtvnsportsblog.html?feed=452001&article=11960513&desktop=true&desktopviewduration=72000
He was a great recruiter, and thought he did great things with the DL.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:30pm
Ok I shouldn't say doubtful, but I think Vrabel was destined for the NFL eventually either way.LJ;1565231 wrote:Doubtful. Vrabel is the one guy you would want to keep.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:34pm
Braxton Miller officially returning per his father

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2014 6:35pm
Thats a bright spot at least. Regardless of what certain posters think, that makes us Playoff contenders next season.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:36pm
I guess his father called Tim May right after the Vrabel news broke. I like the effort lolHighRoller74;1565239 wrote:Thats a bright spot at least. Regardless of what certain posters think, that makes us Playoff contenders next season.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 6:39pm
Apparently Soloman Thomas always talked about Vrabel. This is a huge blow to recruiting

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2014 6:46pm
Very big blow.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2014 6:49pm
I think Thomas is headed to Texas now anyway. Before this.
Fick obviously didn't enjoy recruiting even though he was very good at it.
Wish him the best. Now blow up the rest of the staff too.
Braxton is back officially too.
Fick obviously didn't enjoy recruiting even though he was very good at it.
Wish him the best. Now blow up the rest of the staff too.
Braxton is back officially too.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 9, 2014 6:57pm
Midstate01;1565245 wrote:I think Thomas is headed to Texas now anyway. Before this.
Fick obviously didn't enjoy recruiting even though he was very good at it.
Wish him the best. Now blow up the rest of the staff too.
Braxton is back officially too.
Huh?

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2014 7:03pm
Being said he wants to coach more and recruit less. Wasn't his favorite part.vball10set;1565251 wrote:Huh?

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 9, 2014 7:04pm
@MattFinkes: Still working out a few details, but I will make an announcement regarding my new position at #OSU tomorrow at 920. Thanks #GoBucks
Oh...
Oh...

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2014 7:05pm
Yea what's that all about?

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 9, 2014 7:13pm
Your guess is as good as mine.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 9, 2014 8:26pm
Yea, was just think Vrabel may not want to stay if Fick is on his way out, and jumped on an opportunity for a good job next seasonLJ;1565231 wrote:Doubtful. Vrabel is the one guy you would want to keep.
Very big hit to recruiting.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 8:58pm
Word on twitter is that Fickell is staying and keeping DC job. Vrabel has just always wanted to be in the NFL. Funny thing is I guess he absolutely hates recruiting and the rules around it.se-alum;1565272 wrote:Yea, was just think Vrabel may not want to stay if Fick is on his way out, and jumped on an opportunity for a good job next season
Very big hit to recruiting.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 9, 2014 9:02pm
Vrabel wants to be a head coach in college.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 9, 2014 10:15pm
wildcats20;1565255 wrote:@MattFinkes: Still working out a few details, but I will make an announcement regarding my new position at #OSU tomorrow at 920. Thanks #GoBucks
Oh...
Midstate01;1565257 wrote:Yea what's that all about?
Its not coaching relatedwildcats20;1565259 wrote:Your guess is as good as mine.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 9, 2014 10:42pm
I think Meyer did just fine while in Florida without Vrabel. Yes, its a bit hit in many ways. But lets not make this out to be more than it is. Asst. coaches come and go all over the place. I doubt OSU loses any big recruits because Vrabel isn't there.se-alum;1565272 wrote:
Very big hit to recruiting.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2014 10:57pm
Maybe not anyone thats already committed, but it will have an impact on current targets, mainly Solomon Thomas who has spoken glowingly about Vrabel.
Assistant Coaches are the ones who do the majority of the recruiting with the players, so if he's formed relationships with these kids, that can be enough to get them towards the end where Urban can close.
Remember Urban had amazing recruiters with him in Florida. Charlie Strong, and Dan Mullen to name a few. The head coach is rarely involved in the "day to day" aspect of recruiting, unless its a big target, so losing asst. coaches does hurt most places, especially one who has the back story that the prospects like(NFL guy, multiple rings).
Assistant Coaches are the ones who do the majority of the recruiting with the players, so if he's formed relationships with these kids, that can be enough to get them towards the end where Urban can close.
Remember Urban had amazing recruiters with him in Florida. Charlie Strong, and Dan Mullen to name a few. The head coach is rarely involved in the "day to day" aspect of recruiting, unless its a big target, so losing asst. coaches does hurt most places, especially one who has the back story that the prospects like(NFL guy, multiple rings).

gerb131
Posts: 9,932
Jan 9, 2014 11:01pm
Finkes sucks on the f&a show he is hard to listen too.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 9, 2014 11:10pm
I obviously get all of that. But please give me a list of players who have backed out, or left because an asst. coach has left? And head coaches are more involved in recruiting than you think. They are often the ones who close the door on the recruit. Besides OSU being OSU...Meyer is the guy who has two rings and is known nationally as the coach and one of the top recruiters in the country. He is relentless in recruiting. Any void left, he will fill it and I am not at all concerned.HighRoller74;1565342 wrote:Maybe not anyone thats already committed, but it will have an impact on current targets, mainly Solomon Thomas who has spoken glowingly about Vrabel.
Assistant Coaches are the ones who do the majority of the recruiting with the players, so if he's formed relationships with these kids, that can be enough to get them towards the end where Urban can close.
Remember Urban had amazing recruiters with him in Florida. Charlie Strong, and Dan Mullen to name a few. The head coach is rarely involved in the "day to day" aspect of recruiting, unless its a big target, so losing asst. coaches does hurt most places, especially one who has the back story that the prospects like(NFL guy, multiple rings).

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 9, 2014 11:24pm
I said in the first line, many players already committed may not leave but it will affect the uncommitted players, especially this late in the session.centralbucksfan;1565349 wrote:I obviously get all of that. But please give me a list of players who have backed out, or left because an asst. coach has left? And head coaches are more involved in recruiting than you think. They are often the ones who close the door on the recruit. Besides OSU being OSU...Meyer is the guy who has two rings and is known nationally as the coach and one of the top recruiters in the country. He is relentless in recruiting. Any void left, he will fill it and I am not at all concerned.
And if I had the time I'd work on a list of players but it really isn't worth my time, but if you think losing one of the best recruiters on the team, and one who was the lead recruiter for a couple of our targets left for this year, isn't that big of a deal you're crazy.
Urban may be relentless, but there are only so many hours in the day, and he's only one person.
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Jawbreaker
Posts: 520
Jan 9, 2014 11:58pm
When Vince Marrow left Nebraska for Kentucky last year a four star DB decommitted from Nebraska and went to Kentucky. I also believe he was part of the reason why Braylon Heard found his way to Kentucky from Nebraska. So yes, it can happen but I don't think Nebraska and OSU are in the same league right now when it comes to recruiting.centralbucksfan;1565349 wrote:I obviously get all of that. But please give me a list of players who have backed out, or left because an asst. coach has left?