Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 24, 2014 9:38pm
There are definitely bigger needs. I said I wouldn't take an RT at 4, but it wouldn't automatically be a terrible pick. Especially if they think Schwartz can play guard, which would upgrade 2 spots with 1 pick. I think guard is a much bigger area of need.SportsAndLady;1608832 wrote:Do you disagree that there are areas of greater need? Would you rather upgrade the QB position or the RT position?
If it was up to me, we'd target some combo of QB/WR/CB/G with the first 3 picks.
lhslep134;1608834 wrote:Yeah but we were 5th in pass blocking and that run blocking stat is misleading when you break it down:
We were rated -40.6 in run blocking as a team, comprised of the following studs:
Oniel Cousins -3.1
Shawn Lauvao -12.9
Gary Barnidge (TE) -13.7
In reality it was much closer to or better than league average and should only improve going forward
Pass blocking is very solid. Run blocking is not. But again, I think the issue is more at guard than RT.
It's not a bad line, but it's not one of the best in the league. That's like saying the Wizards are one of the best teams in the NBA. It could definitely stand to be upgraded at multiple positions.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 25, 2014 9:29am
I'm on board with you man. I love Robinson, he's a stud. Him or Mack is my biggest want at 4. Not sure on clowney, clowney has a work ethic then I'd add him to the list. No thanks on Watkins.like_that;1608837 wrote:I guess I am in the minority, but I wouldn't QQ if we drafted Robinson. In 2-3 years he can take the LT spot, and JT could move over to RT. I don't see the problem with drafting a can't miss tackle, QB with #26. For those who want Watkins, the draft is deep enough at the WR position, not sure why we have to get one at 4.
Also, go back to the 2012 draft. What would you rather do? Trade up for t-rich, or draft Kalil?
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Apr 25, 2014 9:37am
Sucks Bernie got fired for the Preseason games. Dude just told it like it is and I loved it.
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shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 25, 2014 10:07am
I seriously don't think the Browns can go wrong at 4. Draft cant come soon enough, I'm really intrigued what they are going to do with pick 4 and 26.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 25, 2014 11:11am
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 25, 2014 11:14am
We all said that two years ago:shook_17;1609010 wrote:I seriously don't think the Browns can go wrong at 4. Draft cant come soon enough, I'm really intrigued what they are going to do with pick 4 and 26.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2014 11:16am
I am not big on Watkins especially not at 4.Commander of Awesome;1609035 wrote:https://twitter.com/buckybrooks/status/459101715862544384
He had a very good year, but in a gimmicky offense. Also, he had 1 great game against OSU which sprung him up the draft rankings. But OSUs defense was god awful this season.
I will actually be pretty upset if we draft him.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 25, 2014 2:58pm
Commander of Awesome;1609035 wrote:https://twitter.com/buckybrooks/status/459101715862544384
I never been high on Watkins either. I don't think he will be that great. I think the Browns should go with Mack, Robinson, or Clowney. But I just have this feeling they are going to take Watkins or Manziel.SportsAndLady;1609040 wrote:I am not big on Watkins especially not at 4.
He had a very good year, but in a gimmicky offense. Also, he had 1 great game against OSU which sprung him up the draft rankings. But OSUs defense was god awful this season.
I will actually be pretty upset if we draft him.
CoA some of those twitter comments were pretty funny. The best one was "Watkins is a top 10 WR in the NFL right now"
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 25, 2014 2:59pm
Top 11.Iliketurtles;1609158 wrote:
CoA some of those twitter comments were pretty funny. The best one was "Watkins is a top 10 WR in the NFL right now"
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 25, 2014 4:38pm
SportsAndLady;1609040 wrote:I am not big on Watkins especially not at 4.
He had a very good year, but in a gimmicky offense. Also, he had 1 great game against OSU which sprung him up the draft rankings. But OSUs defense was god awful this season.
I will actually be pretty upset if we draft him.
Totally agreed. I don't think he is anything special. I'd take Mike Evans over Watkins all day, Evans is a big body and uses it to his advantage.
Im too lazy to look at the schedule, but don't we play the Seahawks this year? If so I hope Gordon comes to play and makes Richard Sherman his bitch.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 25, 2014 4:50pm
No.shook_17;1609259 wrote:Im too lazy to look at the schedule, but don't we play the Seahawks this year?
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 25, 2014 5:21pm
You are pathetically clueless. One great game? LOL.SportsAndLady;1609040 wrote:I am not big on Watkins especially not at 4.
He had a very good year, but in a gimmicky offense. Also, he had 1 great game against OSU which sprung him up the draft rankings. But OSUs defense was god awful this season.
I will actually be pretty upset if we draft him.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2014 5:22pm
Perhaps you missed the part where I said he had a really good year and that the OSU game sprung him up the draft charts?Footwedge;1609273 wrote:You are pathetically clueless. One great game? LOL.
Failwedge strikes again.
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Sonofanump
Apr 25, 2014 9:14pm
Interesting you would say that.Footwedge;1609273 wrote:You are pathetically clueless.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Apr 26, 2014 7:39pm
What you said was he had one great game. Clueless Cletus at his finest. The guy looks a lot like Paul Warfield to me. If I were the general manager, Sammy and J football would be Browns next year giving them 6 all pros on offense. Maybe 7 if Lewis can stay healthy. But no...let's draft a fucking guard this year with our top pick. That'll fire up the dog pound.SportsAndLady;1609274 wrote:Perhaps you missed the part where I said he had a really good year and that the OSU game sprung him up the draft charts?
Failwedge strikes again.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 26, 2014 7:44pm
SMH you are so retardedFootwedge;1609547 wrote:What you said was he had one great game. Clueless Cletus at his finest. The guy looks a lot like Paul Warfield to me. If I were the general manager, Sammy and J football would be Browns next year giving them 6 all pros on offense. Maybe 7 if Lewis can stay healthy. But no...let's draft a fucking guard this year with our top pick. That'll fire up the dog pound.
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Al Bundy
Posts: 4,180
Apr 27, 2014 12:50pm
You want to draft a guy who looks like he is 71?Footwedge;1609547 wrote: The guy looks a lot like Paul Warfield to me.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Apr 27, 2014 1:07pm
Footwedge;1609547 wrote: The guy looks a lot like Paul Warfield to me.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 28, 2014 3:21pm
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/460804801601630210
I doubt they'll pay Vince the veteran minimum and use up a roster spot on him, but....
(old school) VY + Watkins or VY AND JFF doing some crazy pistol shit got me a little hot and bothered
I doubt they'll pay Vince the veteran minimum and use up a roster spot on him, but....
(old school) VY + Watkins or VY AND JFF doing some crazy pistol shit got me a little hot and bothered
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Apr 28, 2014 3:26pm
They will have 4 QB on their roster going into camp.Mohican00;1610214 wrote:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/460804801601630210
I doubt they'll pay Vince the veteran minimum and use up a roster spot on him, but....
(old school) VY + Watkins or VY AND JFF doing some crazy pistol shit got me a little hot and bothered
They have 2 right now, will draft one and then will need to pick up as an UFA or one like Young who doesnt have a team. They simpley need arms for training camp and if a guy like Vince can be signed and used up then go for it.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 28, 2014 3:26pm
No thanksMohican00;1610214 wrote:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/460804801601630210
I doubt they'll pay Vince the veteran minimum and use up a roster spot on him, but....
(old school) VY + Watkins or VY AND JFF doing some crazy pistol shit got me a little hot and bothered
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 28, 2014 4:34pm
No thanks on VY.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Apr 28, 2014 5:06pm
I will say that I hate UT and was at The Shoe in 2005 when Texas started their march to the national championship at the expense of Ohio State.thavoice;1610219 wrote:and if a guy like Vince can be signed and used up then go for it.
Still, he was a helluva talent and had a not so bad NFL career (OROY, 2 x Pro bowler). If he hasn't lost it and can contribute, why not?
Hell head case Jeff George was passed around for years on throwing ability alone
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 28, 2014 5:43pm
He lost it.Mohican00;1610241 wrote:I will say that I hate UT and was at The Shoe in 2005 when Texas started their march to the national championship at the expense of Ohio State.
Still, he was a helluva talent and had a not so bad NFL career (OROY, 2 x Pro bowler). If he hasn't lost it and can contribute, why not?
Hell head case Jeff George was passed around for years on throwing ability alone
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 28, 2014 5:47pm
If this happens I will be sponsoring a shuttle bus to the 480 bridge for anyone interested. I would expect traffic to be heavy though so plan accordingly.Tony Grossi ‏ @ TonyGrossi 1m Just heard @ caplannfl say on ESPN that # Browns will pick Derek Carr at No. 4.
If Farmer even thinks about pulling that bullshit with Johnny Football on the board he will get what's coming to him when he's looking for another job in 2 years.
Carr is a born loser just like his brother and any team that drafts him will figure that out pretty quickly if they weren't smart enough to know it already before the draft.