lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 11, 2014 4:24pm
Gotcha, thanks for clarifyingSonofanump;1604129 wrote:Read Iggy post about him being the total package. Read my post about him being worthy of a first round pick. He is good, he is accurate, but not accurate enough (nor correct body type) to be considered elite like Iggy is claiming.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 11, 2014 4:29pm
Been on the Bortles train for a while now. I sure as hell hope they land him.SportsAndLady;1604119 wrote:Very nice.
Now get Bortles.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 11, 2014 4:39pm
No he gets 18 for 2 years. Then walks If he wants. Browns saved money for next year's cap and if they would have franchised him next year then they saved about 2-4 million towards next year's cap. Only 4 million guaranteed in 3rd year.Sonofanump;1604131 wrote:So Mack gets $26 for 2 years then walks if he wants? No trade, no franchise, no transition.
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Sonofanump
Apr 11, 2014 4:59pm
Thanks. So he leaves $8 on the table if he walks after year two.Midstate01;1604144 wrote:No he gets 18 for 2 years. Then walks If he wants. Browns saved money for next year's cap and if they would have franchised him next year then they saved about 2-4 million towards next year's cap. Only 4 million guaranteed in 3rd year.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Apr 11, 2014 5:03pm
Yes
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 11, 2014 5:35pm
A lot of "browns got what they wanted, smart move by farmer" tweets from nfl people.
Another nice move by farmer, they're adding up already.
Another nice move by farmer, they're adding up already.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 11, 2014 6:21pm
Joe Banner would never have allowed that contract to happen.would like to remind everyone that IQQY said Mack was all but gone.
Mack's reprieve came when Banner was canned.
Not to mention if it was up to Mack he would be gone right now.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 11, 2014 6:52pm
The price isn't going to be paying Mack almost $20 million for 2 years. The price is going to come when his agent who is also representing some other key Browns players want them to be paid as the highest at their positions.
It's going to be fun to watch.
It's going to be fun to watch.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 11, 2014 8:09pm
Who else is he representing?Con_Alma;1604177 wrote:The price isn't going to be paying Mack almost $20 million for 2 years. The price is going to come when his agent who is also representing some other key Browns players want them to be paid as the highest at their positions.
It's going to be fun to watch.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 11, 2014 9:55pm
Sports Science also highlighted this guy's "skills"....HighRoller74;1604125 wrote:After listening to the guy that runs Sports Science on the Herd yesterday, I'm warming to Bortles. That guy pretty much has nailed who will/won't be good in the past 7/8 years, including Vince Young not being any good, and Kaepernick being a star.
Out of the guys he had worked out, or had in the lab. (Bortles, Carr, McCarron, Bridegewater) Bortles was his top guy this year. He didn't have Johnny Football, so no real way to judge him compared Bortles.
He stated the Bortles is very good at everything, but not great at any one thing, which is IMO what you want your QB to be. You want them to be able to make all the throws, but not be a Jay Cutler and think you can make every throw, every time regardless of coverage.
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Not saying Bortles is the next Weeden...the Sports Science reference just brought up this memory.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 11, 2014 10:04pm
Well yeah, that kinda hurts my point lol
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 11, 2014 10:15pm
Drew Rosenhaus also represents Haden, Gordon, Little and I think Cameron.like_that;1604210 wrote:Who else is he representing?
hangonsloopy
Posts: 1,291
Apr 11, 2014 10:27pm
I don't think Mack's agent is Rosenhaus.Con_Alma;1604263 wrote:Drew Rosenhaus also represents Haden, Gordon, Little and I think Cameron.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Apr 11, 2014 11:06pm
Marvin Demoff is Mack's agent.hangonsloopy;1604273 wrote:I don't think Mack's agent is Rosenhaus.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 11, 2014 11:10pm
Fail.Con_Alma;1604263 wrote:Drew Rosenhaus also represents Haden, Gordon, Little and I think Cameron.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 11, 2014 11:13pm
Yeah, that's not how this works.Con_Alma;1604177 wrote:The price isn't going to be paying Mack almost $20 million for 2 years. The price is going to come when his agent who is also representing some other key Browns players want them to be paid as the highest at their positions.
It's going to be fun to watch.
He's also not represented by rosenhaus.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 11, 2014 11:16pm
And even if he was. Rosenhaus always tries to make the most money for his Clients, thus making more for himself. Also that's kind of the agents job to make his client more money, not really surprising.SportsAndLady;1604286 wrote:Yeah, that's not how this works.
He's also not represented by rosenhaus.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 11, 2014 11:20pm
Mack isn't represented by rosenhaus. From what I have been reading the Haden extension is pretty much 95% done. Gordon is somebody to worry about in two years, Cameron will be interesting and Greg Little can fuck off for all I care at this point.Con_Alma;1604263 wrote:Drew Rosenhaus also represents Haden, Gordon, Little and I think Cameron.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 11, 2014 11:23pm
I don't remember a time ever a team was handicapped by an agent's high demands based on a deal made with a previous player represented by the same agent. Lol
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 12, 2014 4:49am
It's not going to help. 25% more than any other at your position when there's others who play a position that demands much more than that of a center.
The cap is increasing and the Browns have more money under the cap than others ...while just committing to a center for $20 million over the next 2 years paying him way more than any other at his position. The Browns will have their feet held to the fire on those others guys contracts because of what they agreed to pay Mack with respect to other centers.
The cap is increasing and the Browns have more money under the cap than others ...while just committing to a center for $20 million over the next 2 years paying him way more than any other at his position. The Browns will have their feet held to the fire on those others guys contracts because of what they agreed to pay Mack with respect to other centers.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 12, 2014 4:50am
GoChiefs;1604282 wrote:Marvin Demoff is Mack's agent.
I apologize. I thought it was Rosenhaus.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Apr 12, 2014 5:57pm
Mack came out and said he's fired up, and no bad blood.
Good to hear.
Good to hear.
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Con_Alma
Posts: 12,198
Apr 12, 2014 6:04pm
Don't know why either side would have bad blood. They couldn't come to terms on their own and they basically let Jacksonville make the deal for them. He's being paid almost 25% more than any other center in the league. He better not have bad blood.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Apr 14, 2014 3:06pm
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Apr 14, 2014 3:33pm
Think they will only use the FB set in short yardage or use it often?vball10set;1604901 wrote:http://www.bcsn.tv/news_article/show/375946?referrer_id=878183
I hope they use it often since I have Tate as a keeper for next season in FF, and the team I went up against for the points title has Josh Gordon.