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Mar 1, 2016 10:52 AM
Unless your spot injecting for an injury, you also have to run it consistently for at least 3-6 months before you're going to notice anything. People assume that tons of people are using it, but given this, the expense and the difficulty of finding legit stuff, it's very rare to have someone running it consistently and having results to back it up.

That's why it does make some sense to see rich athletes linked to it, especially older guys with injury history. I mean, maybe I should believe them, but think about the names Peyton Manning (shoulder), Ryan Howard (Achilles) and Ryan Zimmerman (hamstring). All are 35+ as well. They would all fit the profile.
Mar 1, 2016 10:52am
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Mar 1, 2016 11:02 AM
Azubuike24;1784047 wrote:Unless your spot injecting for an injury, you also have to run it consistently for at least 3-6 months before you're going to notice anything. People assume that tons of people are using it, but given this, the expense and the difficulty of finding legit stuff, it's very rare to have someone running it consistently and having results to back it up.

That's why it does make some sense to see rich athletes linked to it, especially older guys with injury history. I mean, maybe I should believe them, but think about the names Peyton Manning (shoulder), Ryan Howard (Achilles) and Ryan Zimmerman (hamstring). All are 35+ as well. They would all fit the profile.
I don't doubt that any of those guys used or have used it.

Technically, it's considered "cheating" but I find it a bit hypocritical that the NFL has all of these rules to protect the QB (keeping them on the field because people love offense) yet using HGH (to keep the QB on the field-Peyton Manning?) is cheating. I can see people bitching about testosterone usage because it can actually "enhance" a person's performance but all HGH is, is a recovery drug. It's not going to make someone faster or stronger, it's just going allow them to continue to play.
Mar 1, 2016 11:02am
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Mar 1, 2016 11:25 AM
Totally agree. And it's kind of the reason that it should be legal. It is not a PED. It is more of a lifestyle and longevity drug. I mean, guys get Lasik surgery. Guys take anti-inflammatory drugs. Athletes take drugs to manage auto-immune conditions. Athletes take Insulin to control Diabetes.

Why is a guy with terribly low Testosterone considered a cheater if he uses that but a guy with a non-functioning Pancreas taking Insulin isn't?
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Mar 1, 2016 11:25 AM
This is awesome on so many levels. I could've put it in the politics section but this guy is known for his bodybuilding/powerlifting takes. This, to me, is about society in general.....not a particular age group. Would read again....

http://www.lift-run-bang.com/2016/03/fuck-your-body-positivity-voice-and.html
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Mar 16, 2016 8:49 AM
Changed up the rep scheme to 10-8-6-20. Working like a champ. That last set of 20 is a bitch.
Mar 16, 2016 8:49am
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Mar 16, 2016 8:51 AM
BR1986FB;1787090 wrote:Changed up the rep scheme to 10-8-6-20. Working like a champ. That last set of 20 is a bitch.
How does your weight on set 4 compare to set 3?
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Mar 16, 2016 9:10 AM
GOONx19;1787092 wrote:How does your weight on set 4 compare to set 3?
10 x 60% of 1 RM
8 X 65% OF 1 RM
6 x 70-75% of 1 RM
20 X 50% of 1 RM

It's kind of funny because I've been training for almost 35 years and have tried just about everything. This rep scheme is supposedly the "tried & true" method to gain size and it's the first time I've come across it. It's actually 10-8-6- (15 to 20).
Mar 16, 2016 9:10am
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Mar 16, 2016 9:45 AM
BR1986FB;1787096 wrote:10 x 60% of 1 RM
8 X 65% OF 1 RM
6 x 70-75% of 1 RM
20 X 50% of 1 RM

It's kind of funny because I've been training for almost 35 years and have tried just about everything. This rep scheme is supposedly the "tried & true" method to gain size and it's the first time I've come across it. It's actually 10-8-6- (15 to 20).
I like the way it sounds. I think I might give it a try.
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Mar 16, 2016 10:00 AM
GOONx19;1787112 wrote:I like the way it sounds. I think I might give it a try.
I actually adapted it. I did the 10-8-6-20 for my main movement (close grip BP/Barbell curl superset) and then tweaked it to 12-10-20 for my assistance work for more volume. Was a nice arm workout.
Mar 16, 2016 10:00am
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Mar 17, 2016 11:03 AM
Recommendations on shoes for training? Springs, cardio, weights. That's it, no distance running.

Adidas or Nike fit me well, so looking there. My current pair of Adidas are shot and I'm looking for something a little more "minimal" for squats/deads.

A few finds while casually browsing...

Very minimal
Nike Free 1.0
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/free-trainer-1-training-shoe/pid-10865833/pgid-10341429

Something a bit more in the middle.
Metcon 2
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/metcon-2-training-shoe/pid-10873098/pgid-10986452
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Mar 17, 2016 11:10 AM
I'm the wrong person to ask as I wear Vibrams.
Mar 17, 2016 11:10am
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Mar 17, 2016 11:22 AM
I actually like sketchers for HIIT and weight lifting support:




I like Asiac for sprints and the occasional jog.
Mar 17, 2016 11:22am
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Mar 22, 2016 8:20 AM
Automatik;1787437 wrote:Recommendations on shoes for training? Springs, cardio, weights. That's it, no distance running.

Adidas or Nike fit me well, so looking there. My current pair of Adidas are shot and I'm looking for something a little more "minimal" for squats/deads.

A few finds while casually browsing...

Very minimal
Nike Free 1.0
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/free-trainer-1-training-shoe/pid-10865833/pgid-10341429

Something a bit more in the middle.
Metcon 2
http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/metcon-2-training-shoe/pid-10873098/pgid-10986452
I go barefoot for squats and deadlifts. Otherwise i wear Nike.
Mar 22, 2016 8:20am
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Mar 22, 2016 8:45 AM
You have to go barefoot, socks or Vibrams or something completely flat for the deadlift. Interesting about squats. If I'm doing a high-bar, weightlifting style squat or front squats, I'd prefer something with a heel. Of course, I can always work on mobility but it's pretty good to begin with.
Mar 22, 2016 8:45am
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Mar 22, 2016 9:26 AM
Socks or barefoot are not an option and Vibrams suck. I'm just a maintenance lifter. Metcons look like a go.
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Mar 22, 2016 9:53 AM
Automatik;1788422 wrote:Socks or barefoot are not an option and Vibrams suck. I'm just a maintenance lifter. Metcons look like a go.
Have you ever TRIED Vibrams or are you just "throwing that out there" because they look weird? They are extremely comfortable.
Mar 22, 2016 9:53am
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Mar 22, 2016 9:54 AM
Yes, I've tried them on. My middle toe is long as fuck, they just felt weird. Plus there's that whole lawsuit thing that just rubs me the wrong way.
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Mar 22, 2016 9:57 AM
Meh...I only wear mine for working out in the garage and around my house so I don't have to wear slippers. I can understand the long middle toe thing though.
Mar 22, 2016 9:57am
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Mar 22, 2016 9:59 AM
I originally wanted them to wear to a music festival and something for fishing/boating. But that long ass toe required me to size up and it just threw the whole fit off.
Mar 22, 2016 9:59am
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Mar 24, 2016 10:17 AM
BR1986FB;1788630 wrote:Interesting study. Goes against almost everything we've been taught about post-workout nutrition. Obviously it's one sample size but interesting.....

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/should-you-sleep-low-to-boost-performance/?awt_l=DxIKl&awt_m=IfH8pN3bMhWvYa#axzz43pS6c3EA
1) I am going to eat.
2) I am not going to eat before a workout
Ergo: Therefore I am going to eat after a workout.
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Mar 24, 2016 10:55 AM
Sonofanump;1788635 wrote:1) I am going to eat.
2) I am not going to eat before a workout
Ergo: Therefore I am going to eat after a workout.
What was in that article is pretty much the opposite of what I've done. I eat virtually no carbs throughout the day (incidental carbs from greens/salads) and then eat a potato or rice post-workout. Just thought it was interesting that this study is going against pretty much everything we've learned and it was successful.
Mar 24, 2016 10:55am
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Mar 24, 2016 12:14 PM
Trying to really cut down to near stage ready shape. I've found that milk and whey protein are great for gaining, but also keep Insulin high enough it's really difficult to efficiently burn fat. I've been making homemade bone broth (which ends up having a little fat and protein) and using that peri-workout. Only been off the milk and whey for about a week but it's already showing. You should definitely eat after a workout, if only for nutrient partitioning and to satisfy hunger. Evolution says you would expend the most energy you would ever use hunting for food. It only makes sense to feed after that.
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Mar 24, 2016 12:29 PM
BR1986FB;1788651 wrote:What was in that article is pretty much the opposite of what I've done. I eat virtually no carbs throughout the day (incidental carbs from greens/salads) and then eat a potato or rice post-workout. Just thought it was interesting that this study is going against pretty much everything we've learned and it was successful.
I really need to eat 3 meals a day, I can maybe 2-3 times a week skip breakfast for grassfed butter coffee. I have found the non-veggie carbs are best at night for me, never during the day. But I need to workout in the middle of the day due to work and family.
Mar 24, 2016 12:29pm
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Mar 24, 2016 12:33 PM
BR1986FB;1788651 wrote:What was in that article is pretty much the opposite of what I've done. I eat virtually no carbs throughout the day (incidental carbs from greens/salads) and then eat a potato or rice post-workout. Just thought it was interesting that this study is going against pretty much everything we've learned and it was successful.
Those were also triathletes.

Someone wanting strength and size should definitely consume a good amount of their carbs and calories within say 4-8 hours after their workout. These folks usually don't care much about digestion, movement efficiency, etc...strength and mass only.
Mar 24, 2016 12:33pm